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Old October 25th, 2019, 04:40 PM
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Kuthnak Public Playtesting



The figure used for this unit is from the Dungeons Command: Blood of Gruumsh set. Its model number and name is Orc Druid.


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Q: If Incantation of Boiling Blood is used on a Common Orc Squad figure, but Kuthnak dies during that figure's turn (for example, by the Frost Giant's Dying Swipe), does the Squad figure continue to be affected by Incantation?
A: Yes. Incantation lasts "the rest of the turn." The figure must also be destroyed at the end of that turn, even if Kuthnak is killed.
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Old October 27th, 2019, 08:37 PM
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Re: Kuthnak Public Playtesting

Point Total 525
Map: Volcarren Paradise

Army 1: 5x DeathChasers of Thesk, Kuthnak, Gothlok, Nerak (520)
Army 2:4x Knights of Weston, Sir Gilbert, Alistair Macdirk, Eldgrim (525)

Which units survived? 3 life Alistair Macdirk

General Battle Report/Flow of game
The knights and orcs moved up the field and took losses on both sides. Gothlok came out in front and used his aura to help of the rest of the orcs. Kuthnak was then able to move up with shamanic disguise and use IoBB a few times to kill some key knights. Eventually it was just Alistair and one Knight and Alistair was able to clean up the last couple of orcs and Kuthnak for the win.

How useful were playtesting units' powers and how often did they come into play?
Shamanic Disguise was used once and allowed for him to not have to put an order marker on him.

Incantation of boiling blood was used 4 times and was used to kill Gilbert and 6 Knights, It was very useful and still ended up having a net benefit despite 4 orcs dying.
He might need a point increase, just due to how effective he was at getting multiple attacks of 5 with the Deathchasers, but I'm not sure with just one test.

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Old October 29th, 2019, 09:07 PM
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Re: Kuthnak Public Playtesting

Point Total 540
Map: Volcarren Paradise

Army 1: 5x DeathChasers of Thesk, Kuthnak, Ogre Warhulk, Nerak (540)
Army 2: 5x Axegrinders, Mogrimm, Darrak, Bol (470)

Which units survived? 1 life Ogre Warhulk, 3 DCoT

General Battle Report/Flow of game
Accidentally left out a squad of axegrinders giving army 1 a 70 point advantage, which would have made it a closer game than it already was. The orcs and the ogre went to different sides of the map and dwarves went to both sides to respond. Mogrimm killed quite a few orcs including Kuthnak, before going down with a bunch of dwarves. Kuthnak was able to use IoBB to kill some key Axegrinders and put a wound on Mogrimm. Eventually the Ogre Warhulk got the Dwarves start zone and started clearing out the few remainders and the Warhulk and orcs killed Darrak for the win.


How useful were playtesting units' powers and how often did they come into play?
Shamanic Disguise was used once and allowed for him to not have to put an order marker on him.

Incantation of boiling blood was used 3 times and was used to wound mogrimm and and kill 7 dwarves, while having 3 deathchasers die from it.

I think he's pretty great with the Deathchasers with their base attack of 4, but I don't think he's game breaking and is at around the right price point. I'm not sure how much play he'll see with the other orc squads though.
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Did the human armies in those time try to disperse at all to mitigate the whirlwind attack or was that too difficult with these army sizes/speed of DCs?
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Re: Kuthnak Public Playtesting

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Did the human armies in those time try to disperse at all to mitigate the whirlwind attack or was that too difficult with these army sizes/speed of DCs?
I tried to disperse them the best that I could, but having the size of the melee armies and the maps choke points due to lava, made it so the deathchasers could attack at least two or three figures with IoBB, or try to rush the startzone to use IoBB.
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Re: Kuthnak Public Playtesting

Flanked

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Mitonsoul, Rannveig

Army: Blade Gruts x4, Nerak, Ornak, Kuthnak
Army: Stingers x5, Ogre Warhulk

Survivors: Ogre (Full), 5 Stingers

A lot of posturing over the first 3 rounds to get everything in position but it turned into Stingers having height across the divide against Ornak, Nerak boosted Blades flying into them and trying to break the line.

They weren't able to and the Stingers ability to contiually get 3 attacks of 4 ripped through the blade gruts even with Nerak.

How useful were playtesting units' powers and how often did they come into play?
Incantation was used 3 times

All 3 times were 2 attacks against Stingers (all were within Ornak's aura) Killed 4 stingers in those 6 attacks.
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Old November 1st, 2019, 11:19 PM
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Re: Kuthnak Public Playtesting

Ruins of Rennoc

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Gerda

Army: Blade Gruts x4, Nerak, Krav Maga, Kuthnak
Army: Stingers x5, Shiori

Survivors: 3 Stingers, Shiori

Krav came out and leveled a squad of stingers, but 2 4 defense whiffs and an engaging Stinger on an initiative ended the Krav by Round 2.

The map was small, but there wasn't a lot of Boiling Blood opportunities, but a gap opened up to the startzone that was able to hit for 3 (2 kills).

After 4 rounds it was 5 BG, Nerak, Kuthnak vs. 5 Stingers, Shiori.

The Blade Gruts were strung out pretty good and the stingers max activations were able to sway the battle to their side.



How useful were playtesting units' powers and how often did they come into play?

Incantation was used 2 times

-3 targets that killed 2 Stingers
-2 targets that killed 1 Stinger
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Re: Kuthnak Public Playtesting

Venom

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Army: Blade Gruts x4, Nerak, Grimnak, Kuthnak
Army: Stingers x5, Ogre

Survivors: 2 Blades, Kuthnak

Grimnak led the way after a Nerak placement and he was devestating, chomping away and boosting whirlwinding blade gruts. But the stingers were no chumps able to hit strong on each of their attacks before they finally brought down the Dino, but the damage was done. When Grimnak went down it was

Nerak (2), Kuthnak, 10 Blade Gruts vs. 3 Stingers and Ogre

The Ogre was very strong against the all melee squad, but he got caught on low ground and even though he did his own whirlwinding, there were too many pesky Blades left.


How useful were playtesting units' powers and how often did they come into play?

Incantation was used 2 times

-3 targets that killed 1 Stinger
-2 targets that killed 1 Stinger
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Re: Kuthnak Public Playtesting

Map: Ruined City
Points 380

Army 1: Kuthnak, Pel, DC's X4
Army 2: Denrik, Knights X4

Survived: Kuthnak (full)

This short map made for a bloodbath with kills on just about every attack from either side. DC's did get the first strike though, getting in early kills and even a double kill with IoBB. It was pretty interesting how Kuthnak affected the battle because the opponent always had to consider placement and try and stay spread out away from potential IoBB attacks throughout. Knights were able to still get position and kills without more than 2 figures being targetable for IoBB...which, kept Kuthnak from taking mid-game risks with it after the initial early game strike. DC dice were freakin' hot the whole game getting kills (and wounds on Denrik) every turn...but knights fought back. The endgame Kuthnak, 4 DC’s vs 5 Knight. It was here that I retreated some of the DC's back to Kuthnak to put the pressure on the Knights because of IoBB being able to reach just about anywhere. I used IoBB 4 times on the final 5 knights and was able to kill 4 of them with it (last one killed with a normal attack) but the final DC's were killed using IoBB (one was a failed and one was a double kill)

Shamantic used R1 to get Kuthnak into a central location to direct the troops.

IoBB used 5 times (4 in the endgame) getting 7 kills on Knights (2 uses resulted in double kills on knights)

Points Filled: ~122pts but if you net the points (subtracting points from killing DC's(5)) he only filled ~30pts

Overall, really like Kuthnak. IoBB is such a threat that really makes the opponent think about positioning and it's fun to run in for 8 move and attack with a bunch of dice on everything in sight. Love the visual of a crazed orc going nuts and chopping stuff up before he drops dead.
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Re: Kuthnak Public Playtesting

Map: Fairhaven by Flash_19 (Wannok + Dagmar)

superfrog: Blade Gruts x4, Raelin, Grimnak, Kuthnak (425)
kevindola: Spiders x5, Kozil, Wyvern x1 (430)

I started off with a bad Raelin play that let the Wyvern snatch her up and bring her back towards the spiders. Here I used my first Incantation of Boiling Blood, which the Fyorlag blocked but went through for 2 wounds on the Wyvern.

Raelin died pretty fast but I set up anyway on the left hand side, getting through the Wyvern's defenses with a couple 1-skull rolls to kill it. Shamanic Disguise triggered round 2 turn 1, and brought Kuthnak a few spaces forward. I used that new forward position to Boiling Blood a Blade Grut into the SZ where it was able to kill 2 spiders.

Eventually kevin swept up his left flank and brought 3 spiders into my SZ while Kozil attacked Grimnak and co. On their first try, they removed OM1 from my gruts. The added turn there proved to be key, as Kozil put a few more wounds on Grimnak and the Fyorlags killed a couple start zone gruts.

I was able to clear most of the spiders, but Kozil did a whole lot of work. His wounded rage was pretty powerful this game, getting him at least 3 kills. Kuthnak finally got some OMs and put a single wound on Kozil before dying.

kevindola won with a 4-life Kozil and 4 spiders remaining.

In 5 uses of Incantation of Boiling Blood, Blade Gruts killed 4 spiders, put 2 wounds on the Wyvern, and 1 wound on Kozil, or about 120 points of damage. Subtracting out 50 points of Blade Gruts gives a net of 70 points.

Kuthnak also put one wound on Kozil for another 16 points.

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A pretty solid showing here for Kuthnak. Other than my bad play with Raelin and the sniped OM, Kuthnak was pretty helpful in giving the Blade Gruts a few tools to clear out the front lines.

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