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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
Thanks! We're aware that the Bat Shuriken can have some powerful combinations, but decided we're comfortable with that as a group since part of the purpose of glyphs is to "unbalance" the game ... that's why they're usually difficult to obtain and to hold on to!
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM
NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (GLYPH OF UTILITY: POLICE SCANNER/BAT SHURIKEN) - THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them. PASS - MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game. PASS - BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding. PASS - SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak. PASS - POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any. PASS - FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play. PASS - FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against. PASS - DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting. PASS - USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable. PASS - STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game. PASS _____________________________________________________________ Army Test - Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes - What should be the unit's point value? N/A - Give a brief overview. Poor Evasive Strike rolls from Batman and superior bonding by the criminals won the day for the bad guys. Map: Custom (2 of each glyph were placed about halfway between the startzones and the center of the map). Units: Batman (200), Robin (100), Beat Cops x4 (260), Code: Blue Officer x2 (140) (700) vs. Hood (180), Scarecrow (140), Street Thugs x4 (280), Black Mask (100) (700)
Spoiler Alert!
_____________________________________________________________ Army Test - Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes - What should be the unit's point value? N/A - Give a brief overview. Police Scanners let the Lawmen bunch together, but they lacked offensive punch. Batman used the Shurikens well to trim the horde, but not that much better than he could have used his special attack. Map: Custom (two glyphs randomly placed near each startzone). Units: Batman (200), Wonder Man (350), Zauriel (320), Robin (120) (990) vs. Hawkmen of Thanagar x2 (200), Commissioner Gordon (90), Jonah Hex (130), Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) (400), Huntress (170) (990)
Spoiler Alert!
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. Last edited by IAmBatman; February 16th, 2012 at 12:30 PM. |
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
One army test down, one to go!
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
Yeah, looks like the bad guys had the advantage in synergy in that first test. We need Lt. Stone to help the Lawmen
Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
I would test this with either Absorbing Man or Hulk, or both. I think he makes legit concerns there. Lowering Defense (a la Adamantium Claws) is one thing, but that 8 could be fixed by simply adding: "When any figure uses this glyph it may not add to its attack by using any power that uses Colored Markers."
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
We kind of went over these possible situations with Hulk and Absorbing Man getting some crazy ranged attacks with the glyph and figured that if it happens once in a great while it will be fine. Those figures aren't going to be in every game this glyph is used, they still have to obtain the glyph, they have to roll great with all those dice to make it a big deal and they have to roll good defense to keep from losing the glyph. Hulk with 6 wound markers is 2 wounds away from dying anyway and might get killed before even using the glyph. Absorbing Man loses Absorption Markers each time he takes a wound, so he's not always going to have a ton of markers on his card and if the opponent sees him going for this glyph, attack him and weaken him.
It's good to double check power level concerns for sure, but with a glyph, there are a lot of things that have to happen to make everything come out just right and there's always the built in balancing mechanic where someone that picks up the glyph can lose it easily by taking a wound. Hulk and AM have a defense of 6 but no 1 shield defense or battery marker or spidey sense, so they shouldn't be able to hang onto it for a crazy amount of time. That all said, there's nothing wrong with testing the glyph with these units just for piece of mind. Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
And ranged attacks that large or close to it aren't alien to this game ... GLs are more than capable of them as well.
Edit: Not to mention the extra range is rarely going to be worth it for someone like the Hulk, who'd be sacrificing 4 attack dice or so just for the privilege of attacking from range. Why wouldn't he just move the extra spaces instead most of the time? C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. Last edited by IAmBatman; February 16th, 2012 at 12:33 PM. |
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
Tests done, 24 hours on the clock!
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
Pre-Yea
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
Pre-Yea
Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you ...Iron Maiden - The Wicker Man TUTORIAL FOR RE-BASING FIGURES 3hrs 43mins 32secs = 1242nd of 8808 overall - 1988 Honolulu Marathon |
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Re: The Book of Glyph of Utility: Bat Shuriken - Design
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