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Old January 28th, 2011, 12:31 AM
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Re: CHCG24 Discussion Thread

"Traitorous Habits" as written has a turn interruption going on. I'm not sure what the magic is about turn interruption, but I've seen GBob and Bats and others write that a turn interruption is a no-no. Consider, for instance, how a person might struggle with him whiffing on an attack against a Reaver. Is there Scatter or not?

It probably can be revised a bit, though, if that's something you want to try modifying ("If ... Toklar's turn immediately ends and ...").

It's something I'd have to think very carefully about, if I was trying to figure out how he worked.

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Old January 28th, 2011, 01:00 AM
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Re: CHCG24 Discussion Thread

Or you could just have the opponent take control at the end of Tolkar's turn.

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Re: CHCG24 Discussion Thread

I'll probably go with Toklar's turn immediately ends.

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With that figure... maybe double attack? And knock the defense down to 3? This also makes him more of an offensive figure and reduces the utility of Tolkar as a glyph-grabber, which was one of your concerns.

I also like the suggested change of language to match Hawthorne, with "Tolkar's turn immediately ends" thrown in.

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Re: CHCG24 Discussion Thread

The problem with "immediately ends" is that it's in the middle of resolving the attack. I think that opens up more problems.

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The problem with "immediately ends" is that it's in the middle of resolving the attack. I think that opens up more problems.
Hmm. Probably depends on how it's worded. Think it over & fiddle with it, Tickle; if you're satisfied that it's obvious how to resolve the Scatter question then you're probably making progress.

Looks good to me otherwise.

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Re: CHCG24 Discussion Thread

Toklar rolls no skulls, you can say either the turn is over so no need to roll defense, or now its a friendly figure the rats were attacked by.

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Re: CHCG24 Discussion Thread

Yeah, I suppose I prefer your "at the end of Tolkar's turn" language, quozl. It seems like it is the easiest to interpret.
If Tolkar attacks an opponent's figure and does not roll at least 1 skull, then at the end of Tolkar's turn, that opponent takes control of Tolkar. Remove any Order Markers on this Army Card, then give the card to that opponent.
That eliminates all the turn interruption effects.

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Re: CHCG24 Discussion Thread

It's not just scatter. Counterstrike is affected too.

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Toklar rolls no skulls, you can say either the turn is over so no need to roll defense, or now its a friendly figure the rats were attacked by.
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It's not just scatter. Counterstrike is affected too.
Don't get me wrong, Tickle (or quozl). I'm not disagreeing with quozl at all. Just because you immediately end the turn doesn't *necessarily* answer all questions, and just because the Scatter question is answered similarly doesn't *necessarily* mean you're done. It just means you're making progress.

Put something together & see how you like it, is my suggestion.

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Re: CHCG24 Discussion Thread



End of turn wording added.

I'm sorry for the delay, I was looking around for a good replacement mini, and I haven't decided. Being a purely aesthetic choice, that shouldn't stop this unit from passing.

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Re: CHCG24 Discussion Thread

I like him. I'm curious how it'll go when you playtest him, but I like the Traitorous mechanic for a 5 point hero. I wonder whether the ability should be "Traitorous" instead of "Traitorous Habits," now that I think of it. Hmm.

Anyway, there's a typo - not a misspelling, a straight up typo - but I'm not telling you where.

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