The Book of Deadpool (III)

[Karat]

Originally Posted by MrNobody

I think the Bob thing is a fair point. He’s never going to break a game, but Bob was an A- figure, then we changed his class to give him more synergy. He’s a pretty effective little dude.

Do you know how many times the power was effective per game?

In answer, the power took effect several times, mostly to the benefit of the opposing team. To my recollection it only resulted in a single wound on Deathstroke but it definitely influenced whether or not you wanted to attack him.

[Karat]

Originally Posted by Splash

Sorry about that, dropping that change to Merc moving forward then and we'll see more tests at 300 still.

In general, before proposing, it is best to poll out the options like this and answer any questions that may arise. In this case, you are more than free to tag me for any questions since I ran the initial and took the notes.

It's also best to have a solidified direction before proposing to avoid confusion and to feel out whether or not a majority agrees that a change is needed and/or necessary.

[Splash]

Thanks for the notes Karat.

I felt it was more thematic with him willing to wound himself to deal a wound as well, but it does complicate the design a little more. I think I will wait for one or two playtests to roll in and if he doesn't play for cost, I'll poll out whether to lower or make that change.

[IAmBatman]

Make sure to update the thread title here! My yea stands.

[Splash]

I thought I had and then I realized it was the second post.
Oof.

[Arkham]

yea

[Splash]

One more here

[Karat]

Yea

[Splash]

Thanks Karat!

This passes.
I'll throw up a fun thing after supp.

[MrNobody]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Deadpool

Army Test 1
Map: Castle Dracula (Custom Map)
Units: Team 1 (900): Deadpool (300), Gamora II (300), Cable (275), Bob (25)
Team 2 (900): Bolivar Trask (120), Classic Sentinel x3 (480, Sentinel MkV x2 (300)

Pre-game thoughts: N/A

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Deadpool inflicts a Me First unblockable on a MkV Sentinel
-A Classic Sentinel inflicts 2 wounds on Cable

Round 2: T2 wins initiative
-A MkV Sentinel puts Deadpool in the Database
-A Classic Sentinel inflicts 2 wounds on Deadpool
-A Classic Sentinel inflicts a wound on Deadpool
-Deadpool counters a MkV Sentinel, inflicting a wound on it
-Deadpool heals 1 wound
-A MkV Sentinel puts Gamora in the Database
-Deadpool receives 2 wounds from a MkV Sentinel
-Deadpool heals 2 wounds

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Deadpool heals 1 wound
-A Classic Sentinel inflicts a wound on Cable
-A MkV Sentinel takes out Bob
-Deadpool inflicts 2 wounds on a Classic Sentinel
-Deadpool inflicts a Me First unblockable on a Classic Sentinel
-A Classic Sentinel inflicts 2 wounds on Deadpool
-Deadpool heals 1 wound
-A Classic Sentinel takes out Cable
-Deadpool inflicts a Me First unblockable on a MkV Sentinel
-A Classic Sentinel inflicts 2 wounds on Deadpool

Round 4: T2 wins initiative
-Deadpool heals 1 wound
-Classic Sentinels take out Deadpool
-T1 had OM2 on Deadpool so they lose a tun
-A Classic Sentinel inflicts 2 wounds on Gamora
-Gamora inflicts a wound on a Classic Sentinel
-A MkV Sentinel inflicts a wound on Gamora

Round 5: T2 wins initiative
-Gamora takes out a Classic Sentinel
-A MkV Sentinel takes out Gamora

Special power usages:
Normal attack: 2 wounds inflicted (2 on Classic Sentinel)
Me First: 4 teleports, 3 wounds inflicted on an enemy: (2 on Classic Sentinels, 1 on MkV Sentinel)
Merc with a Mouth: 1 wounds inflicted (1 on MkV Sentinel)
I Really Needed Those: 6 wounds healed

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Bolivar Trask (0/4 wounds), CLassic Sentinel (1/4 wounds) Classic Sentinel (0/4 wounds), Sentinel MkV (2/4 wounds), Sentinel MkV (1/4 wounds)

Post-game thoughts: Wow, the Sentinels really tore through Team 1 here. Sentinels were able to get to height faster and block off Cable, meaning he didn’t get to do his thing. I think I spent way too long healing Deadpool up and firing his weakened attacks, when it would’ve been more opportune to do other things, like use Gamora’s Flanking Strike.

Deadpool’s attack felt really weak here. Any wounds on him at all and it starts to lose effectiveness so quickly.

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Army Test 2
Map: Castle Dracula (Custom Map)
Units: Team 1 (900): Deadpool (300), Silver Sable (200), Norn Spider-Man (170), Prowler (130), Ragdoll (100)
Team 2 (900): Lightning Lad II (220), Saturn Girl (220), Wildfire (280), Phantom Girl (180)

Pre-game thoughts: Hoping Sable’s multiple activations will fare better for Deadpool than the Cable army.

Summary of the game:

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1: T2 wins initiative
-Wildfire inflicts a wound on Deadpool
-Lightning Lad (LL) inflicts a wound on Deadpool
-Deadpool inflicts 2 wounds on Wildfire

Round 2: T1 wins initiative
-Spidey inflicts a wound on LL
-Spidey inflicts a wound on Saturn Girl (SG)
-SG inflicts 1 wound each on both Sable and herself
-Deadpool uses Me First to inflict 1 wound each on both LL and Wildfire
-LL inflicts a wound on Deadpool
-Phantom Girl (PG) inflicts 1 wound each on both Deadpool and Spidey
-Deadpool heals 2 wounds
-Prowler takes out Saturn Girl
-LL inflicts 2 wounds on Sable

Round 3: T1 wins initiative
-Deadpool inflicts a wound on LL
-LL takes out Sable
-Wildfire inflicts a wound on Spidey
-T1 had OM2 on Sable so they lose a turn
-Spidey takes out LL
-T2 had OM3 on LL so they lose a turn

Round 4: T1 wins initiative
-Spidey inflicts 3 wounds on PG
-Deadpool inflicts a wound on Wildfire
-PG inflicts 1 wound each on both Spidey and Ragdoll
-PG takes out Spidey
-PG inflicts a wound on Deadpool
-Deadpool uses Me First to inflict a wound on PG
-Deadpool takes out PG with a counterstrike

Round 5: T2 wins initiative
-Wildfire inflicts a wound on Deadpool
-Deadpool heals a wound
-Wildfire inflicts a wound on Deadpool
-Deadpool heals a wound

Round 6: T1 wins initiative
-Deadpool heals 2 wounds
-Deadpool inflicts a wound on Wildfire
-Deadpool heals a wound
-Deadpool takes out Wildfire

Special power usages:
Normal attack: 6 wounds inflicted (5 on Wildfire, 1 on Lightning Lad)
Me First: 3 teleports, 3 wounds inflicted on an enemy (1 on Lightning Lad, 1 on Wildfire, 1 on Phantom Girl)
Merc with a Mouth: 1 wounds inflicted (1 on Phantom Girl)
I Really Needed Those: 7 wounds healed

Who won? List figures remaining in the winning army (include life remaining for heroes): Deadpool (0/6 wounds), Prowler (0/4 wounds), Ragdoll (1/4 wounds)
Post-game thoughts: A solid win. Spidey and Deadpool felt like the MVPs here.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I think he’s close. “I Needed Those” feels like it could use some tweaks when it comes to healing speeds. When Deadpool is rolling hot, he feels like he’s nigh unkillable. When he’s not, it sucks to waste a turn with him and get a completely wimpy attack out of it.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: In general, I felt like the 2 lengthy dialogue titles were too much and felt difficult to reference when discussing the character.

I also will share that he had a lot going on, especially reactively, and I feel like I came close to forgetting things a few times. That may just be a personal thing, but maybe something to stick in your back pocket.

He's a lot of fun, but I do have some notes!

I think "I Needed Those" would feel better if you healed less wounds but didn't give up your move to do it. There were a lot of times where I'd teleport Deadpool to an inopportune position to take advantage of his unblockables. Next turn, I try to heal him instead of moving, but flub the roll and maybe heal 1 wound max. All I have left is a weaksauce attack, so it kinda feels like I wasted a turn. On the opposite end, it's frustrating for the opponent to almost have Deadpool close to dead, only for him to completely reheal in a single turn.

Even if he could jus teleport after healing, I feel like that would help a lot, since I can at least hop back up to high ground during my turn.

[Splash]

Thanks a bunch Nobody!
Busy weekend for me so I'll come back here Sunday evening.

[Tornado]

If Frankenstein attacks an adjacent Deadpool, does each blank count as one or two additional skulls?

MERC WITH A MOUTH
Enemy figures attacking Deadpool with a normal attack count all blanks rolled as skulls. After rolling defense dice for Deadpool against an opponent's normal attack, if he does not receive any wounds, the attacking figure receives a wound for each blank Deadpool rolled.

SWORD OF THE ARCHANGEL MICHAEL
Roll 2 additional attack dice against an adjacent Demon or 1 additional attack die against any other adjacent figure. When attacking an adjacent figure with Frankenstein's normal attack, each blank rolled counts as 1 additional skull.