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Old October 11th, 2020, 05:00 PM
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Does he throw the shield around like CA does with his? Could have that as his ranged attack option and SA.
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Yeah, it doesn't exactly look aerodynamic, that one.


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Old October 11th, 2020, 05:39 PM
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Does kinda suck if he blows a hole in the faction going forward, especially with current developments in-sanctum. But I also think anything else would probably be inaccurate. I’m convinced we can work around it. (I’d honestly rather see him go down in power level than change classes.)
I'm in favor of that faction going Commando, personally. Non-SS distinctions are also a possibility.
It's a good thing Hahma doesn't really drop in that frequently any more, Bats.

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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Breathing)

Thanks Ronin, I like what you did with Savior's Shield. I did end up adding the "Once per round" in there. I don't want it to be a constant thing.

I have changed his class to Leader, I think Leader works here. This will take him out of future Soldier synergy making him too powerful. Still not sure about the point cost here.

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NAME = SUPER SOLDIER
SECRET IDENTITY = CLARK KENT

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = LEADER
PERSONALITY = PATRIOTIC

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 6

MOVE = 7
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 380?


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Range 4. Attack 2 + Special.
Choose a figure to attack and roll 2 attack dice, or 3 attack dice if the chosen figure is an Android or Destructible Object. For each skull rolled, roll one additional attack die. Continue rolling an additional attack die for each additional skull rolled until no skulls are rolled. The defending figure rolls defense normally.

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If there is a revealed Order Marker on this card:
  • When Super Soldier attacks, all blanks rolled count as extra skulls;
  • If a Soldier within 6 clear sight spaces of Super Soldier attacks, you may count one blank rolled as an extra skull.
SAVIOR'S SHIELD
When defending against an attack, Super Soldier adds one automatic shield to whatever is rolled. Once per round when a friendly figure adjacent to Super Soldier is attacked, you may switch Super Soldier and the targeted figure. After the figures are switched, the attacking figure must target and attack Super Soldier, if possible. Super Soldier takes leaving engagement attacks when moved with this special power, but the initially targeted figures does not.

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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Breathing)

380-400 seems about right on the calculator. I might start him at 390.

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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Breathing)

I honestly don’t love Leader as a class here. He’s not really leading anybody in the comics, just vaguely inspiring them. If we absolutely can’t have Soldier, what about Guardian?
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Breathing)

I'm with Odysseus here - Leader doesn't feel right to me, he's not that Leader-y and it honestly usually feels like a 'well, we can't think of anything better' class, given the number of leaders who aren't Leaders - leadership is represented in powers rather than a class, IMO, it's too generic.
Hand on heart, this guy is a Soldier, from what you've said. Anything else as his class feels like it'd be forced. I'm sure that the Soldier faction can be designed without having to rely on this guy, or we could even work in future synergies to his price tag, I don't know. But not making him a Soldier just because he comes before Soldier synergy... feels like it's sacrificing putting out the best, most thematic work we can. And as I've said, it's hardly as though Magneto or Silver Surfer are busting their respective factions - the Joes could easily be designed so that this guy isn't the optimal pick.


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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Breathing)

Soldier for a guy named Super Soldier feels a bit on the nose. Were there any objections to Champion?

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Old October 13th, 2020, 09:59 AM
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Breathing)

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Would SUPER SOLDIER be a crazy class?
IMO? Yes. It feels off that this chap'd get it while Cap wouldn't.


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Soldier for a guy named Super Soldier feels a bit on the nose. Were there any objections to Champion?
The fact that he wasn't iconically a Champion type, but is iconically a Soldier type.


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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Breathing)

I'm not sure this guy has enough comic book history to really be iconically anything.

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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Breathing)

My main problem with Champion (as a second choice class) is just how much of it is now in Sanctum. Seems a bit unfair to do to a public design.
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Re: The Book of Super Soldier (Breathing)

I was really going for Soldier for his class. I think Soldier fits better than Leader for sure. I just thought that there were things coming in the future that would make him game breaking.
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