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It was a ruling from @Grungebob quite some time ago, but of course it might not relate to this context.
Are you talking about that this post in regards to Peloth's Special Attack? Not really the same thing as 'anything that uses attack dice is an attack', it seemed more like he was saying that you can't use attack dice except in an attack. Considering the official game almost immediately went against what he said there with the Frost Giant, I wouldn't take much from that 'ruling'.


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Re: The Book of Judge Mortis - Brainstorming

So let me make sure I understand the situation.
Since I was told during the Judge Death LD that Death Never Dies had to be worded "attacks and destroys" and not simply "destroys" because that was not acceptable but apparently is because an OL Construct has a power worded like that and since I was told that attack dice = attack but apparently does not, Decaying Touch has been painted into a proverbial special attack corner?

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It's a tangled mess is what it is, which is why I was thinking it should be a normal attack enhancement. It really seems like the cleanest way to go about it.
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Re: The Book of Judge Mortis - Brainstorming

Which means a static attack power is out of the question.

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Re: The Book of Judge Mortis - Brainstorming

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So let me make sure I understand the situation.
Since I was told during the Judge Death LD that Death Never Dies had to be worded "attacks and destroys" and not simply "destroys" because that was not acceptable but apparently is because an OL Construct has a power worded like that and since I was told that attack dice = attack but apparently does not, Decaying Touch has been painted into a proverbial special attack corner?
That seems to be the case I am a little confused as to why 'destroys' was such a no-no for Death but fine for the OCs, did everyone just forget about the issue or something?

You could give Mortis something akin to Red Arrow's Speed Shot if you wanted to keep decaying during other turns though. Attacking outside a turn is apparently ok in C3G.

Forgive me if I'm not allowed to post power suggestions, but something like this:

After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of another Undead Unique Hero you control and moving that Unique Hero, before attacking with that Unique Hero, if Judge Mortis is engaged, he may immediately attack an opponent's figure with his normal attack.

That gets you to were it still triggers outside his turn (you could open it up to any OM reveal, but I thought the Undead limit helped tie him into his faction better and kept the power from being too crazy), while also working with Judge Death. Then you can just add a 'decaying' mechanic to the end, or as a separate power.


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It's a tangled mess is what it is, which is why I was thinking it should be a normal attack enhancement. It really seems like the cleanest way to go about it.
So something like this then?

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Re: The Book of Judge Mortis - Brainstorming

That would be fine with me, granted I wouldn't be opposed to changing Death Never Dies to match the OCs either.
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That would be fine with me, granted I wouldn't be opposed to changing Death Never Dies to match the OCs either.
This would be my choice.

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That would be fine with me, granted I wouldn't be opposed to changing Death Never Dies to match the OCs either.
This would be my choice.
I personally don't want to see us change Judge Death like that; if we're making any changes, I'd much prefer we change the Orange Construct to use Judge Death's "attack" wording (the current wording for their power has some messy interactions).

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That would be fine with me, granted I wouldn't be opposed to changing Death Never Dies to match the OCs either.
This would be my choice.
I personally don't want to see us change Judge Death like that; if we're making any changes, I'd much prefer we change the Orange Construct to use Judge Death's "attack" wording (the current wording for their power has some messy interactions).
I'd be good with this as well and definitely think they should match.
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Re: The Book of Judge Mortis - Brainstorming

So Mortis is still stuck.
If anyone has any suggestions let me know because I got nothing.

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So Mortis is still stuck.
If anyone has any suggestions let me know because I got nothing.
Well, it depends on what exactly you're looking for outside of it being able to activate Death's ability. If you wanted to keep it passive, you could borrow from what Soundwarp suggested and do:

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After revealing an Order Marker on the Army Card of another Undead Unique Hero you control and moving that Unique Hero, before attacking with that Unique Hero, if Judge Mortis is engaged, he may immediately attack an opponent's figure with his normal attack.
If you weren't interested in doing it passively (or if you wanted to add another power to combine with the one above), there are all sorts of fun effects you can tack on to a normal attack:

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When Judge Mortis attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if you roll a skull on every die, the defending figure immediately receives one unblockable wound before rolling defense dice, or two unblockable wounds if it is a destructible object.
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When Judge Mortis attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, if you roll a skull on every die, the defending figure cannot roll any defense dice.
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DECAYING TOUCH
When Judge Mortis attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, before any defense dice are rolled, if you rolled as many skulls as the defending figure's remaining Life number, destroy the defending figure.
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When Judge Mortis attacks an adjacent figure with his normal attack, for each blank rolled, the defending figure immediately receives one unblockable wound before rolling defense dice.

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