Classic Heroscape Power Rankings

[Freezie]

Stingers, 4th Mass, and 10th Reg all had very strong showings this year. I think 10th should get bumped up to an A for sure. Also, while Minions won a few tournaments, they should stay about an A-. PKs had some solid showings as well, possibly a raise?

[quozl]

Originally Posted by Kaemon Awa 123

KC not supporting the underdog?

Omnicrons got 2nd place at the Vancouver, WA tournament - only lost to 4th + Silver Surfer.

[wriggz]

I nominated Cyprien Esenwein for a raise. He always places in the top 3 up here in Toronto, and there is some fairly stiff competition. He adds so much to a Stinger/10th or most other common armies.

Granted we run different scenarios, but most degrade into kill'em alls anyway. He is a very versatile figure and other than a bad match up against Soulborg armies (which are admittedly on the decline) he can be a real beast on most maps.

[jschild]

Goblin's are surprisingly effective - Can't wait to see them with their D3 buddies. If you don't have Q9/Zelrig in your army, they can be brutal being able to kill only 1 at a time.

[Carnival Man]

Originally Posted by wriggz

I nominated Cyprien Esenwein for a raise. He always places in the top 3 up here in Toronto, and there is some fairly stiff competition. He adds so much to a Stinger/10th or most other common armies.

Granted we run different scenarios, but most degrade into kill'em alls anyway. He is a very versatile figure and other than a bad match up against Soulborg armies (which are admittedly on the decline) he can be a real beast on most maps.

At the Bay Area Brawl yesterday my army won 5-0. That's 5-0 with five different players, I only played & won with them in the first match:

Cyprien
Phantom Knights x3
Krav Maga
460 pts.

[Jexik]

Originally Posted by Kaemon Awa 123

Suck on it 4th! I propose that the 10th be moved above the 4th by any means possible... Anyone second the motion?

I don't know. I've very rarely had trouble with the 10th, and I've never wanted to play them. I lost to them on Saturday, but I lost to just about everything on Saturday.

If there were more Q9's at TTO VI, I think Sterling wouldn't have won it all.

Not to take anything away from his victory, but Redcoats do very well when Q9 doesn't show up, but if he does, it's a different story.

[S1R_ART0R1US]

Originally Posted by Jexik

I don't know. I've very rarely had trouble with the 10th, and I've never wanted to play them. I lost to them on Saturday, but I lost to just about everything on Saturday.

If there were more Q9's at TTO VI, I think Sterling wouldn't have won it all.

Not to take anything away from his victory, but Redcoats do very well when Q9 doesn't show up, but if he does, it's a different story.

I think it really depends on what the Redcoats are paired with. One of the reasons they're better than the 4th Mass is they can be paired with any figure and not lose anything. For the record, I beat a Q9/Hydra/Raelin/WoA army with Redcoats/Marcus/Raelin/AE (Here, Game 5) and Sterling beat an army with Q9/10th/Dividers and one with Q10/Krav/Microcorp (Here, Games 2 and 3)

[Jexik]

Originally Posted by S1R_ART0R1US

I think it really depends on what the Redcoats are paired with. One of the reasons they're better than the 4th Mass is they can be paired with any figure and not lose anything. For the record, I beat a Q9/Hydra/Raelin/WoA army with Redcoats/Marcus/Raelin/AE (Here, Game 5) and Sterling beat an army with Q9/10th/Dividers and one with Q10/Krav/Microcorp (Here, Games 2 and 3)

That guy in game 2 had Q10, not Q9, he made an error in the BR.

[Jexik]

Originally Posted by Jexik

That guy in game 2 had Q10, not Q9, he made an error in the BR.

That underlined line gets repeated way too many times that people decide to believe it.

[TurtleKing99]

Originally Posted by Jexik

Spoiler Alert!

That underlined line gets repeated way too many times that people decide to believe it.

Right, I paired 4th with Nilfheim at NHSD and didn't lose anything.

[Rich10]

Originally Posted by Jexik

That underlined line gets repeated way too many times that people decide to believe it.

With the increase in melee armies, the 10th have many good matchups. The 10th does have a small advantage over the 4th when playing against melee armies in that they can move one or two figures (getting bayonette attack) while keeping the melee defense. Even recognizing this, overall, the 4th are still better.

[ManTrainChooChoo]

We can beat this dead horse so many times over... but the basics are that both the 4th mass and 10th foot typically beat melee based armies. The 10th get a slight edge due to bayonet however, that extra cost of 5 per squad can get kind of annoying when building an army. The 10th foot at an A isn't awful, but the 4th mass are still much better against ranged based armies. And if you want to use the 4th mass with Raelin, more power to you(just ask Ohio's NHSD winner).