The Book of Ant-Man (Scott Lang)

[TrollBrute]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Agreed.
I know 1000 has been the standard for C3G but I have always felt like these lower point figures get lost in the shuffle and 600 point games are more apt for testing.

Originally Posted by Yodaking

It all depends on what the card is offering. Cosmo is looking at 150 right now, but his support powers don't have as much as an impact when paired with just 450 more points of figures so I want to see him in higher point games. This Ant-man is a stand alone figure rather then a support unit though, and coming in at under 100 points, so yeah I'd rather gauge what kind of impact he has on the outcome of a 600 point battle than a 1000 point one.

It's best to get the games at as low a point level as you can go while still allowing their full potential. A 70 point unit will typically get lost in the shuffle of a 1200 point game, but a 150-200 supportive unit might need a full 1000-1200 to show off their full value.

[laughing matter]

Just letting you know, I'm running a test for this guy. Here's the first game, and it's rough. I made some poor choices with his team though, specifically the strategy relying so heavily on Trapster, and winning initiative.

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT:

Army Test
Map: Sacred Shrine
Units: Gotham's Finest (Commissioner Gordon + Beat Cops (x2) + Batman I + Robin (Dick) + Alfred) (580) vs Amanda Waller (195) Scott Lang (70) Killer Bee (15) Vulture (90) Chronos (75) Trickster (70) Trapster (75) (590)

Spoiler Alert!

This game was a slaughter. The Vulture started off by carrying Trapster into enemy territory, with Chronos, or another Suicide Squad member for the second turn under Waller. The plan was to place a paste pot marker on Gordon on OM 1, to prevent him from moving the cops. Then go after the Bat on OM 2, away from the Beat Cops, tie him down with a Paste Pot Marker. Then, on OM 3 gang up on him and try to kill him. Then wash rinse and repeat. Unfortunately, they lost initiative very soon after getting most of their figures onto the other side of the board. Batman had height advantage on Trickster, and ended up killing him in 3 attacks. He whiffed on the dice once. Robin spent that time attacking Chronos, and was able to give him a respectable 2 wounds before Batman, with height gave him another 2.

At this point, Ant-Man decided to take on Batman out of panic, instead of making a smarter choice like picking off cops. He failed to deal any damage to Batman, and was killed on the next OM by Batman. Batman continued to slaughter the Suicide Squad, with Robin helping contribute o the wound count occasionally. Eventually it got down to Amanda Waller and Trapster, who was tied down by Gordon and the Beat Cops. Waller went after Batman, who after failing a couple of Evasive Strike and defense rolls, recieved 2 wounds from Waller. Batman did manage to give Waller 2 wounds though, and after gaining height advantage, but taking a wound from a leaving engagement, gave Waller 2 more wounds. After killing Waller, Batman started to head back to the other side of the board, as he trekked to the opposite end, to kill Trapster.

The Beat Cops and Gordon were having no luck with Trapster, who hit in his most effective point in the whole game, and had only managed to give him 2 wounds. Batman reached him, and his luck continued, and Trapster was able to give him one wound, killing him. Robin then attacked him, and after giving him just 1 wound on his OM 1, whiffed on OM2, and Gordon attacked him on OM 3. Trapster recieved 2 wounds, and was killed. Also, Robin killed the killer Bee after Ant-Man got killed, but it had so little effect that I almost forgot.

Who won? Gotham's Finest: Commissioner Gordon (0 Wounds) Beat Cops (3 killed) Batman I (4 Wounds) Robin (0 Wounds) Alfred (0 Wounds)

[Arkham]

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Ant-Man (Scott Lang)

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Army Test 1
Map: Custom
Units:
Ant-Man(SL)(70), Fire Ant Swarm x 6(60), Crime Alley Crooks x 2(130), Gambit(210), Darkseid(380) (850)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Shang-Chi(230), Iron Fist(260), Tigra(170) (850)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R2T2: 0 wounds on Iron Fist.
R2T3: 1 wound on Iron Fist. (Darkseid - 1 and Small but Mighty - 2)
R3T3: 1 wound on Shang-Chi. (Small but Mighty -2)

Amateur Insect Control:
R3T2: Fire Ant Swarm puts 3 wounds on Shang-Chi rolling 16, 15, then 19(2 swarms were engaged).

Notes:
R1T3: Darkseid puts 4 wounds on Iron Fist(botched defense).
R2: Fire Ants move
R2T1: Iron Fist puts 3 wounds on Darkseid, heals 1 wound. Cage attacks Darkseid, 1 wound.
R2T2: Iron Fist attacks Ant-Man, subtracting 3 from his dice thanks to Darkseid and Small but Mighty, blocked. Luke Cage attacks Darkseid, whiffs.
R2T3: Shang-Chi kills a Crime Alley Crook, a Fire Ant Swarm, and puts 1 wound on Ant-Man. Luke Cage kills a Crime Alley Crook.
R3: Fire Ant Swarms move
R3T1: Darkseid kills Iron Fist.
R3T1: Shang kills 2 Ant Swarms. Cage kills Crime Alley Crook.
R3T2: Shang kills 2 Ant Swarms, then puts 1 wound on Ant-Man.
R3T3: Shang kills an Ant Swarm, then kills Ant-Man.
R4: Last Ant Swarm moves.
R4T1: Darkseid kills Shang.
R4T1: Tigra puts 1 wound on Darkseid. Cage kills a Crime Alley Crook.
R4T2: Darkseid puts 3 wounds on Tigra.
R4T2: Tigra kills last Fire Ant Swarm, Cage kills last Crime Alley Crook.
R5T1: Darkseid kills Tigra.
R5T2: Darkseid puts 2 wounds on Cage.
R5T2: Cage puts 1 wound on Darkseid.
R5T3: Gambit put 1 wound on Cage.
R6T1: Darkseid puts 1 wound on Cage.
R6T2: Darkseid kills Cage.


Darkseid with 6 wounds, Gambit with 1 wound.

Ant-Man's team had some decent back and forth luck with their rolls, whereas Cage's team, other than Shang, were pretty ineffective. Ant-Man's team attempted to swarm the Fighters as much as possible, and the multiple turns were helpful. However, Darkseid was the one that played the biggest factor here.

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Army Test 2
Map: Custom
Units:
Ant-Man(CL)(70), Captain America(240), War Machine(270), Oracle(110), Fire Ant Swarm x4(40) (730)
vs.
Professor X(220), Cable(275), Phoenix(230) (725)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R2T2: 2 wounds on Phoenix. (Oracle revealed X, Cap +1)
R2T3: 2 wounds on Phoenix, kills her.

Amateur Insect Control:


Notes:
R1T3: Cable takes 1 wound from War Machine's ACG, puts 3 wounds on War Machine. Phoenix takes 1 wound from WM's ACG, puts 1 wound on Cap and kills War Machine.
R2: Fire Ants move.
R2T1: Cap puts 1 wound on Phoenix, takes 1 wound from Phoenix Fire.
R2T1: Phoenix kills an Ant Swarm, puts 1 wound on Cap. Cable kills a Fire Ant Swarm, puts 1 wound on Cap.
R2T2: Ant-Man takes 1 wound from Phoenix Fire.
R2T2: Cable kills Cap, then kills a Fire Ant Swarm.
R2T3: Ant-Man takes 1 wound from Phoenix Fire.
R3T1: Cable kills Ant-Man(botched defense).
R3T2: Cable kills last Ant Swarm.
R4T1: Oracle puts 1 wound on Cable.
R4T1: Cable kills Oracle(botched defense).


Cable with 2 wounds, Professor X with 0 wounds.

Ant-Man's team were a bit mismatched here, and it didn't help that War Machine went out quicker than a bottle rocket as usual. Cap didn't last too long either, but his team was able to take out Phoenix and put a dent in Cable at least before it was all said and done. Ant-Man performed pretty well here, doing well above his point level in damage.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Ant-Man's ability to take a turn with an Insect, then take a turn himself, and then take a turn with the Crime Alley Crooks, is pretty decent. Not sure if that's too good, given the low level of all of them, but something I noticed. Overall, Ant-Man is fun to play, and I feel Small but Mighty is reason enough to pick him up at his low point value as filler, but the Amateur Insect Control and Thief synergy gives him some decent pairings as well. Tiny Thief giving him disengage and the ability to avoid non-adjacent attacks is great as well. Ultimately, I'd say 70-90 for point value is likely, depending on how he performs in other tests. 80 feels fair.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by laughing matter

Just letting you know, I'm running a test for this guy. Here's the first game, and it's rough. I made some poor choices with his team though, specifically the strategy relying so heavily on Trapster, and winning initiative.

Thanks for the test.

Originally Posted by Arkham

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Ant-Man (Scott Lang)

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Army Test 1
Map: Custom
Units:
Ant-Man(SL)(70), Fire Ant Swarm x 6(60), Crime Alley Crooks x 2(130), Gambit(210), Darkseid(380) (850)
vs.
Luke Cage(190), Shang-Chi(230), Iron Fist(260), Tigra(170) (850)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R2T2: 0 wounds on Iron Fist.
R2T3: 1 wound on Iron Fist. (Darkseid - 1 and Small but Mighty - 2)
R3T3: 1 wound on Shang-Chi. (Small but Mighty -2)

Amateur Insect Control:
R3T2: Fire Ant Swarm puts 3 wounds on Shang-Chi rolling 16, 15, then 19(2 swarms were engaged).

Notes:
R1T3: Darkseid puts 4 wounds on Iron Fist(botched defense).
R2: Fire Ants move
R2T1: Iron Fist puts 3 wounds on Darkseid, heals 1 wound. Cage attacks Darkseid, 1 wound.
R2T2: Iron Fist attacks Ant-Man, subtracting 3 from his dice thanks to Darkseid and Small but Mighty, blocked. Luke Cage attacks Darkseid, whiffs.
R2T3: Shang-Chi kills a Crime Alley Crook, a Fire Ant Swarm, and puts 1 wound on Ant-Man. Luke Cage kills a Crime Alley Crook.
R3: Fire Ant Swarms move
R3T1: Darkseid kills Iron Fist.
R3T1: Shang kills 2 Ant Swarms. Cage kills Crime Alley Crook.
R3T2: Shang kills 2 Ant Swarms, then puts 1 wound on Ant-Man.
R3T3: Shang kills an Ant Swarm, then kills Ant-Man.
R4: Last Ant Swarm moves.
R4T1: Darkseid kills Shang.
R4T1: Tigra puts 1 wound on Darkseid. Cage kills a Crime Alley Crook.
R4T2: Darkseid puts 3 wounds on Tigra.
R4T2: Tigra kills last Fire Ant Swarm, Cage kills last Crime Alley Crook.
R5T1: Darkseid kills Tigra.
R5T2: Darkseid puts 2 wounds on Cage.
R5T2: Cage puts 1 wound on Darkseid.
R5T3: Gambit put 1 wound on Cage.
R6T1: Darkseid puts 1 wound on Cage.
R6T2: Darkseid kills Cage.


Darkseid with 6 wounds, Gambit with 1 wound.

Ant-Man's team had some decent back and forth luck with their rolls, whereas Cage's team, other than Shang, were pretty ineffective. Ant-Man's team attempted to swarm the Fighters as much as possible, and the multiple turns were helpful. However, Darkseid was the one that played the biggest factor here.

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Army Test 2
Map: Custom
Units:
Ant-Man(CL)(70), Captain America(240), War Machine(270), Oracle(110), Fire Ant Swarm x4(40) (730)
vs.
Professor X(220), Cable(275), Phoenix(230) (725)

Spoiler Alert!

Attack Damage:
R2T2: 2 wounds on Phoenix. (Oracle revealed X, Cap +1)
R2T3: 2 wounds on Phoenix, kills her.

Amateur Insect Control:


Notes:
R1T3: Cable takes 1 wound from War Machine's ACG, puts 3 wounds on War Machine. Phoenix takes 1 wound from WM's ACG, puts 1 wound on Cap and kills War Machine.
R2: Fire Ants move.
R2T1: Cap puts 1 wound on Phoenix, takes 1 wound from Phoenix Fire.
R2T1: Phoenix kills an Ant Swarm, puts 1 wound on Cap. Cable kills a Fire Ant Swarm, puts 1 wound on Cap.
R2T2: Ant-Man takes 1 wound from Phoenix Fire.
R2T2: Cable kills Cap, then kills a Fire Ant Swarm.
R2T3: Ant-Man takes 1 wound from Phoenix Fire.
R3T1: Cable kills Ant-Man(botched defense).
R3T2: Cable kills last Ant Swarm.
R4T1: Oracle puts 1 wound on Cable.
R4T1: Cable kills Oracle(botched defense).


Cable with 2 wounds, Professor X with 0 wounds.

Ant-Man's team were a bit mismatched here, and it didn't help that War Machine went out quicker than a bottle rocket as usual. Cap didn't last too long either, but his team was able to take out Phoenix and put a dent in Cable at least before it was all said and done. Ant-Man performed pretty well here, doing well above his point level in damage.

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
Ant-Man's ability to take a turn with an Insect, then take a turn himself, and then take a turn with the Crime Alley Crooks, is pretty decent. Not sure if that's too good, given the low level of all of them, but something I noticed. Overall, Ant-Man is fun to play, and I feel Small but Mighty is reason enough to pick him up at his low point value as filler, but the Amateur Insect Control and Thief synergy gives him some decent pairings as well. Tiny Thief giving him disengage and the ability to avoid non-adjacent attacks is great as well. Ultimately, I'd say 70-90 for point value is likely, depending on how he performs in other tests. 80 feels fair.

Thank you, too! That's very helpful. I'll be trying to get a couple of sheet's done for Ant-Man over the next week, and hopefully after those we might be able to move him on to Final Editing. I'll keep him at 70 points for my tests, but it won't surprise me if I decide to move him on at 80.

[Ronin]

Got some mini photos. Scott came doubled-over, and I tried to get some usable photos before I bent him into a more proper shape, just in case anything went awry.

The "after" photos are first here, with the weirder ones afterward. Didn't have great sunlight today, but I think I managed to get something usable anyway.

Spoiler Alert!

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Ronin

Got some mini photos. Scott came doubled-over, and I tried to get some usable photos before I bent him into a more proper shape, just in case anything went awry.

The "after" photos are first here, with the weirder ones afterward. Didn't have great sunlight today, but I think I managed to get something usable anyway.

Spoiler Alert!

Thank you - massively appreciated!

~ Lazy Orang, hoping there's something there the Art team finds usable.

[laughing matter]

here's the full playtest report, with the first game included.

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT:

Army Test
Map: Sacred Shrine
Glyphs: None
Units: Gotham's Finest (Commissioner Gordon + Beat Cops (x2) + Batman I + Robin (Dick) + Alfred) (580) vs Amanda Waller (195) Scott Lang (70) Killer Bee (15) Vulture (90) Chronos (75) Trickster (70) Trapster (75) (590)

Spoiler Alert!

This game was a slaughter. The Vulture started off by carrying Trapster into enemy territory, with Chronos, or another Suicide Squad member for the second turn under Waller. The plan was to place a paste pot marker on Gordon on OM 1, to prevent him from moving the cops. Then go after the Bat on OM 2, away from the Beat Cops, tie him down with a Paste Pot Marker. Then, on OM 3 gang up on him and try to kill him. Then wash rinse and repeat. Unfortunately, they lost initiative very soon after getting most of their figures onto the other side of the board. Batman had height advantage on Trickster, and ended up killing him in 3 attacks. He whiffed on the dice once. Robin spent that time attacking Chronos, and was able to give him a respectable 2 wounds before Batman, with height gave him another 2. At this point, Ant-Man decided to take on Batman out of panic, instead of making a smarter choice like picking off cops. He failed to deal any damage to Batman, and was killed on the next OM by Batman. Batman continued to slaughter the Suicide Squad, with Robin helping contribute o the wound count occasionally. Eventually it got down to Amanda Waller and Trapster, who was tied down by Gordon and the Beat Cops. Waller went after Batman, who after failing a couple of Evasive Strike and defense rolls, received 2 wounds from Waller. Batman did manage to give Waller 2 wounds though, and after gaining height advantage, but taking a wound from a leaving engagement, gave Waller 2 more wounds. After killing Waller, Batman started to head back to the other side of the board, as he trekked to the opposite end, to kill Trapster. The Beat Cops and Gordon were having no luck with Trapster, who hit in his most effective point in the whole game, and had only managed to give him 2 wounds. Batman reached him, and his luck continued, and Trapster was able to give him one wound, killing him. Robin then attacked him, and after giving him just 1 wound on his OM 1, whiffed on OM 2, and Gordon attacked him on OM 3. Trapster received 2 wounds, and was killed. Also, Robin killed the killer Bee after Ant-Man got killed, but it had so little effect that I almost forgot.

Who won? Gotham's Finest: Commissioner Gordon (0 Wounds) Beat Cops (3 killed) Batman I (4 Wounds) Robin (0 Wounds) Alfred (0 Wounds)

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Army Test
Map: Sacred Shrine
Glyphs: Power Gem, Teleportation Belt, E-Ray
Units: Hawkman (225) Hawkgirl (225) Hawkmen of Thanagar x 3 (300) Wasp I (50) [800] vs Ant-Man (Scott Lang) (70) Ant-Man (Hank Pym) (30) Ant-Man (Eric O'Grady) (60) Fire Ant Swarm x 13 (130) Killer Bee x 3 (45) Aaron Cash (75) Heimdal (390) [800]

Spoiler Alert!

This was a great showing for Scott. The initial strategy for team Ant was for the Ants to all move with Swarm Tunneling, thanks to Heimdal, and eventually surround Hawks and Wasp. Hopefully leaving engagement attacks could do them some damage. In the meantime, Om 1 went to Hank to move himself and Scott toward the glyphs on Killer Bees. Hank then moved himself on OM 2, as well as Eric, on bees. Scott and Hank got to the glyphs on OM 3, but the Hawk couple got to the glyph zone as well, and Hawkman grabbed the Power Gem. Scott then stole it, after taking a wound from Hawkgirl, and attacked Hawkman. Hawkman received 2 wounds. Hank Pym was killed by Hawkman, and Scott started running toward Aaron Cash.

The Hawks pursued him, and eventually Hawkgirl started to target Heimdal. She killed Aaron Cash first though, so that he wouldn't annoy her. Scott, equipped with the Power Gem, killed Hawkman after a round, and started to clear out the Hawkmen of Thanagar who had made their way across the board by that point, and tried to surround him after Hawkman died. Scott ended up losing the Power Gem after a lucky shot from a Hawkman of Thanagar.

He did pretty well against the Hawkmen, and it felt a bit more on their level without the Power Gem. but he eventually fell from a defense whiff on an attack from a Hawkman of Thanagar. Wasp fell to a leaving engagement attack from an Ant almost as soon as she left the start zone. It came down to Heimdal, who killed Hawkgirl, and one Ant who's just tagging along. Heimdal came over to the last Hawkman who killed Scott, and killed him.

Who won? Ant-Man (Scott Lang) (3 wounds) Ant-Man (2 wounds) (30) Ant-Man (Eric O'Grady) (1 wound) Fire Ant Swarm x 13 (12 killed) Killer Bee x 3 (3 killed) Aaron Cash (3 wounds) Heimdal (3 wounds)

THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
With the Power Gem, coupled with his defense reducing power, Ant-Man felt stronger than the Hawkmen of Thanagar. He felt like he was a little under Hawkgirl's level with the boost from the Power Gem. On the other hand, you would have to draft Captain America and Enchantress (or Solovar, and use the E-Ray to turn him into a monkey) for the same effect. This, however, is an effect that all heroes without Super Strength have. His other synergies, as a thief, and his insect control, combined with this put him a little bit over 70 points for me.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: He did abysmal in the first game, due to me sending him shooting above his league, but the boost from the power gem did a lot to help him take on bigger guns. Without it, he's hitting, and taking down Hawkmen of Thanagar, and since they're 50 points for 1 hawk, I'd say that he isn't too much higher than them. I'd put him at anywhere from 50-80 points higher in the second game, but around 50 points in the first game, so 75-85 is probably right for him.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by laughing matter

here's the full playtest report, with the first game included.

Thanks for the tests! I'm not too concerned about his power level with the Power Gem - I think you'd be hard pressed to find a figure who doesn't become scary carrying that! It looks like he's probably going to end up with a 5-15 point bump - I'll continue with him at 70, since I've got the armies worked out for my tests, but I'll probably give him that bump moving forwards.

[Lazy Orang]

Here's my first test for my first test sheet for Ant-Man!

Name Of The Playtest Unit: Ant-Man (Scott Lang)

Army Test 1
Map: Blackroot (no glyphs)
Armies:
Ant-Man (Scott Lang) (70), Amanda Waller, Doctor Octopus, Shocker, Deadshot, 1x Fire Ant Swarm (800 Points)
vs.
Professor X, Beast, Silver Samurai, Bishop (800 points)

Spoiler Alert!

Overview of Ant-Man’s performance:
Damage inflicted through normal attacks: 2 wounds on Bishop.
Extra wounds thanks to Small but Mighty: 1 on Bishop.
Wounds blocked through Small but Mighty: 2 from Bishop.
Insect Heroes activated through Amateur Insect Control: None.
Glyphs stolen through Tiny Thief: None
Engagements left through Tiny Thief: None

Round One

Amanda Waller takes out a hit on Silver Samurai.
The X-Men claim the initiative. Beast and Silver Samurai advance.
Deadshot shoots Beast to no effect. Shocker advances and fires two blasts at Beast, again to no effect.
Silver Samurai teleports into melee with Shocker, slashing at him with his Tachyonic Katana for a wound. Beast leaps into melee with Shocker and hits him for a wound, knocking him back one space.
Shocker shoots Silver Samurai twice, inflicting two wounds and knocking him back one space and onto low ground. Doctor Octopus enters into melee with Beast and Silver Samurai, on height, locking them down, tearing Silver Samurai apart but getting slashed for two wounds in return.
Beast punches Doc Ock for a wound.
Doc Ock rips at Beast for three wounds, before Deadshot shoots Beast for a wound.

Round Two

Amanda Waller takes out a hit on Bishop, who enters through a timeslip on the sandy hill near Doctor Octopus.
The X-Men claim the initiative. Bishop shoots Doc Ock to no effect. Beast knocks Octavius out.
Deadshot shoots Beast in the head before betraying Amanda, forcing her to detonate the bomb in his brain. Shocker charges into melee with Bishop, shooting him twice and inflicting a wound. One of the attacks allows Bishop to absorb some energy.
Bishop shoots Shocker dead.
Scott Lang advances.
Bishop shoots the ants dead.
Scott Lang charges into melee with Bishop on low ground and rolls 3 skulls, infliciting a wound he would not have inflicted were it not for Small But Mighty.

Round Three

Amanda Waller continues her hit on Bishop.
The X-Men claim the initiative. Bishop shoots Ant-Man for a wound after rolling all skulls, though he would have inflicted two were it not for Small But Mighty.
Ant-Man punches Bishop for a wound.
Bishop shoots Shocker dead.
Scott Lang advances.
Bishop shoots Ant-Man for a wound, but would have inflicted two were it not for Small but Mighty.
Scott Lang punches Bishop to no effect, causing him to absorb some more energy.

Round Four

Amanda Waller continues her hit on Bishop.
The Suicide Squad, finally, claim the initiative. Ant-Man punches Bishop, but he aborbs the blow.
Bishop fires a full strength Concussive Blast at Scott, taking him out.
Amanda retreats.
Bishop runs forwards and unloads all of his gathered Concussive energy at Amanda Waller, inflicting, shockingly, only two wounds.
Amanda runs forwards and fires a shot at Bishop, which he absorbs.
Bishop moves to height and shoots Amanda, but she dodges.

Round Five

Amanda Waller claims the initiative, charging into melee with Bishop and firing a shot at him, which he absorbs.
Bishop punches Amanda in the gut for a wound.
Amanda shoots Bishop, but he absorbs it.
Bishop knocks Amanda out with a Concussive Blast.

X-Men victorious - Bishop 3 wounds, Professor X unwounded.

Overview: He's pretty good, I can see a boost to 80, easily. The attack boost from Special Assignment is nice, and he's a decent filler unit for the Suicide Squad (not that they're lacking in that department, what with Trapster, Chronos, Vulture, Shadow Thief and most of the Rogues), but he noticably suffers from not being able to use a Killer Bee as his trusty steed, which I'm actually glad about - I wanted to avoid this being his go-to build, and, while it's still a decent and fun one for him, it isn't.

[Lazy Orang]

And here's my first test sheet (of two) for Scott Lang!

- Theme Test - Pass - He’s feeling just like the character as I know him.
- Mirror Test - Pass
- Bonding Test - Pass - He does have an example of chain-bonding, being able to command an Insect, take a turn and then bond with the Crime Alley Crooks, but it's just about the weakest, most low-level chain-bonding you could come up with, so I'd say he's fine here.
- Synergies Test - Pass - Thief synergies are fun, but far from define him - Amanda Waller cripples his mobility by not allowing him to ride a Killer Bee, and the Crooks are a nice boost but nothing special or required, and are an extra 65 points for only one squad that you may not want to invest into low-level support for a filler hero. Insect synergies are also nice but not amazing - I’ve got no use out of Fire Ants so far (I imagine you’d probably want a critical mass of them, at which point that’s a significant investment considering Scott’s still only a filler hero, and Hank would serve you better here anyway (though Scott could work as a back-up leader/attacker to a Hank-based insect swarm), and the Killer Bee offers a significant mobility boost and probably his most vital synergy, but little in the way of offensive power. A Killer Bee and Captain America are probably the figures he benefits most from, which is fine by me!
- Power Check - Pass - I'm not seeing anything worrying, power-level wise.
- Fun Test - Definite Pass - I think he's a lot of fun to play.
- Fun Competitive Test - Pass - though he can be an irritating little gnat to swat at times, I kind of feel like he'd have been a failure if he wasn't, and it's nowhere near as bad as a lot of units.
- Drafting Test - Pass - If I have a few points left in a Suicide Squad or generic hero-based (i.e. Avengers) army, then he's probably going to be high on my list of possibilities to fill them.
- Usage Test - Pass - The thievery is match-up specific, but fun, thematic and useful, and everything else is used regularly.
- Strategy Test - Pass - Nothing massive, but he’s good to fly in to make a surprisingly swift and effective surprise/sneak attack, when you consider his move tacked onto that of a Killer Bee and his, for his price, strong offensive potential. When you then consider the offensive and defensive interactions of Small But Mighty, his ability to steal glyphs, and the far from necessary but still usable synergies he has available, and he’s offers some decent stratgic opportunities.

Name Of The Playtest Unit: Ant-Man (Scott Lang)

Army Test 1
Map: Blackroot (no glyphs)
Armies:
Ant-Man (Scott Lang) (70), Amanda Waller, Doctor Octopus, Shocker, Deadshot, 1x Fire Ant Swarm (800 Points)
vs.
Professor X, Beast, Silver Samurai, Bishop (800 points)

Spoiler Alert!

Overview of Ant-Man’s performance:
Damage inflicted through normal attacks: 2 wounds on Bishop.
Extra wounds thanks to Small but Mighty: 1 on Bishop.
Wounds blocked through Small but Mighty: 2 from Bishop.
Insect Heroes activated through Amateur Insect Control: None.
Glyphs stolen through Tiny Thief: None
Engagements left through Tiny Thief: None

Round One

Amanda Waller takes out a hit on Silver Samurai.
The X-Men claim the initiative. Beast and Silver Samurai advance.
Deadshot shoots Beast to no effect. Shocker advances and fires two blasts at Beast, again to no effect.
Silver Samurai teleports into melee with Shocker, slashing at him with his Tachyonic Katana for a wound. Beast leaps into melee with Shocker and hits him for a wound, knocking him back one space.
Shocker shoots Silver Samurai twice, inflicting two wounds and knocking him back one space and onto low ground. Doctor Octopus enters into melee with Beast and Silver Samurai, on height, locking them down, tearing Silver Samurai apart but getting slashed for two wounds in return.
Beast punches Doc Ock for a wound.
Doc Ock rips at Beast for three wounds, before Deadshot shoots Beast for a wound.

Round Two

Amanda Waller takes out a hit on Bishop, who enters through a timeslip on the sandy hill near Doctor Octopus.
The X-Men claim the initiative. Bishop shoots Doc Ock to no effect. Beast knocks Octavius out.
Deadshot shoots Beast in the head before betraying Amanda, forcing her to detonate the bomb in his brain. Shocker charges into melee with Bishop, shooting him twice and inflicting a wound. One of the attacks allows Bishop to absorb some energy.
Bishop shoots Shocker dead.
Scott Lang advances.
Bishop shoots the ants dead.
Scott Lang charges into melee with Bishop on low ground and rolls 3 skulls, infliciting a wound he would not have inflicted were it not for Small But Mighty.

Round Three

Amanda Waller continues her hit on Bishop.
The X-Men claim the initiative. Bishop shoots Ant-Man for a wound after rolling all skulls, though he would have inflicted two were it not for Small But Mighty.
Ant-Man punches Bishop for a wound.
Bishop shoots Shocker dead.
Scott Lang advances.
Bishop shoots Ant-Man for a wound, but would have inflicted two were it not for Small but Mighty.
Scott Lang punches Bishop to no effect, causing him to absorb some more energy.

Round Four

Amanda Waller continues her hit on Bishop.
The Suicide Squad, finally, claim the initiative. Ant-Man punches Bishop, but he aborbs the blow.
Bishop fires a full strength Concussive Blast at Scott, taking him out.
Amanda retreats.
Bishop runs forwards and unloads all of his gathered Concussive energy at Amanda Waller, inflicting, shockingly, only two wounds.
Amanda runs forwards and fires a shot at Bishop, which he absorbs.
Bishop moves to height and shoots Amanda, but she dodges.

Round Five

Amanda Waller claims the initiative, charging into melee with Bishop and firing a shot at him, which he absorbs.
Bishop punches Amanda in the gut for a wound.
Amanda shoots Bishop, but he absorbs it.
Bishop knocks Amanda out with a Concussive Blast.

X-Men victorious - Bishop 3 wounds, Professor X unwounded.

Overview: He's pretty good, I can see a boost to 80, easily. The attack boost from Special Assignment is nice, and he's a decent filler unit for the Suicide Squad (not that they're lacking in that department, what with Trapster, Chronos, Vulture, Shadow Thief and most of the Rogues), but he noticably suffers from not being able to use a Killer Bee as his trusty steed, which I'm actually glad about - I wanted to avoid this being his go-to build, and, while it's still a decent and fun one for him, it isn't.

Army Test 2
Map: Highways and Dieways (No Glyphs)
Armies;
Ant-Man (Scott Lang) (70), Captain America (C3G), Bucky, Shocker, Gentleman Ghost, 2x Crime Alley Crooks, 2x Killer Bees, 1x Fire Ant Swarm (865 points)
vs.
Doctor Octopus, Scorpion, Mysterio, Trapster, 2x LexCorps Security (865 points)

Spoiler Alert!

Overview of Ant-Man’s performance:
Damage inflicted through normal attacks: 1 LexCorps Securityman taken out
Extra wounds thanks to Small but Mighty: None
Wounds blocked through Small but Mighty: 6 from Doctor Octopus.
Insect Heroes activated through Amateur Insect Control: Killer Bee twice.
Glyphs stolen through Tiny Thief: None
Engagements left through Tiny Thief: None

Round One

The Avengers claim the initiative, a Fire Ant Swarm tunnels forwards, and Cap and Bucky run forwards.
One LexCorp flies forwards and Scorpion follows him.
Gentleman Ghost flies forwards, and three Crooks follow him.
The frontal LexCorp shoots Bucky for a wound. Scorpion charges Gentleman Ghost, taking him out and tail whipping a tree, causing it to fall on Captain America, inflicting a wound.
Gentleman Ghost appears near Doc Ock before shooting Octavius and fading away. One Crook charges the advanced LexCorp, killing him, another charges Scorpion, taking him out, and a third advances.
One LexCorp flies forwards, shooting a Crook dead. Scorpion enters into combat with Captain America, stepping onto the treestump and striking him from height inflicting a wound and killing a Crook with a tail whip.

Round Two

The Avengers claim the initiative and a Fire Ant Swarm tunnels forwards. Bucky charges Scorpion, punching him to no effect. Cap moves to equal height with Scorpion before punching him for a wound.
The LexCorp advances and shoots Bucky for two wounds. Scorpion kills Bucky and Tail Whips Cap for a wound.
Shocker runs forwards and shoots Scorpion for a wound, knocking him into a hole. He shoots Scorpion again to no effect. Two Crooks advance from reserve, and one smashes Scorpion from height with his crowbar, but fails to hurt him.
The LexCorp frontal LexCorp flies forwards and shoots Shocker for a wound. Scorpion moves to equal height with the Crook in engagement with him, but incompetently fails to kill him.
Shocker shoots Scorpion, failing to hurt him but knocking him into a hole, before shooting him to no effect. Two Crooks charge Scorpion, failing to hurt him, while one charges the LexCorp, failing to hurt him.
The LexCorp shoots the Crook dead, while Scorpion kills another Crook

Round Three

The Avengers claim the initiative, and the Fire Ants tunnel into combat with the frontal LexCorp. Cap throws his shield, taking out the LexCorp but failing to harm Scorpion.
The LexCorp flies forwards and fires a shot at Cap, but the blast bounces off his shield. Scorpion moves to height before killing a Crime Alley Crook.
Shocker knocks Scorpion from height before killing him. The last Crime Alley Crook advances.
The LexCorp flies forwards, before Mysterio swaps places with him.
Ant-Man flies forwards on a Killer Bee before moving in to knock out the frontal LexCorp. The last Crook runs forwards.
Doc Ock advances.

Round Four

The Criminals claim the initiative, and the Doc Ock engages and attacks Ant-Man, lashing ineffectually with three arms before finally smashing Ant-Man with his last arm for two wounds.
Cap charges Doc Ock and punches him from low ground for a wound.
Doc Ock lashes at Captain America, and kills him on with his last arm.
A Killer Bee flies up and tries to sting Mysterio. Ant-Man strikes Doc Ock to no effect. The last crook charges Trapster to no effect.
Doc Ock kills Ant-Man, eliminating the remainder of the round. The last LexCorp shoots the last Crook to no effect.

Round Five

The Criminals claim the initiative, and the Doc Ock rips the killer bee apart. The last LexCorp shoots the last crook dead.
Shocker runs round the south, flanking the enemy and shooting the last LexCorp dead, annihilating the last of the enemy’s round.
Shocker runs up and shoots Doc Ock twice, inflicting no damage on him and knocking him back three spaces.
Shocker claims height and shoots Otto twice, inflicting two wounds.
Doc Ock kills Ant-Man, eliminating the remainder of the round.
Doc Ock advances.

Round Six

The Criminals claim the initiative, and the Doc Ock charges Shocker and strikes him four times, inflicting one wound.
Shocker gets incredible luck on the attack, shooting Doc Ock dead, eliminating the rest of the Criminals’ round, before shooting Mysterio, who vanishes.
Shocker charges Mysterio, shooting him twice - he vanishes the first time, but there’s nowhere to vanish to, and so Shocker can strike him again, rolling all skulls to no shield and knocking him clean out.
Shocker shoots Trapster from height, rolling all skulls to no shields, knocking him out.

Criminal Avengers Victorious, Shocker 2 wounds, 1 Killer Bee, 1 Fire Ant Swarm.

Overview: I'll be honest, the Avengers only won that one due to Shocker making up for his lackluster performance early game by becoming a bloody badass when he was the last man standing - when Cap and Ant-Man fell, I thought it was all over for them, but then Shocker entered one-man army mode, and slaughtered the criminals with ruthless efficiency, annihilating their Order Marker placements.
This was easily Scott's worst performance under my command, inflicting little damage and getting taken out in short order - but he's still a filler, so it's within a reasonable margin for him, and he still took out 65 points worth of LexCorps. I never got to really make use of the Insect/Ant-Man/Crooks chain bonding, but I see no way it could be overpowered - the crooks were hardly that amazing when bonding with the other Thieves, and so far, I've had no experience of the Insect bonding being that strong either - mostly, I've just found it useful so that Ant-Man has a ride to the front lines, not strong offensively.I'm sure that combo would be a lot of fun to play, but I see no way of it being overpowered.

Thoughts On The Tested Unit's Cost, Balance, & Draftibility:

I’m going to be running two more tests, but there’s nothing in either of these tests that worries me, or even makes me particularly feel like he needs the considered points’ bump to 80. I’m still not ruling it out at all, and I’d probably want to at least split the difference at 75, but I’ll see how he feels at 70 for the next couple of games before making a final decision. I feel like the final cost is the only thing still up in the air right now.

[Yodaking]

You said he had a pretty terrible performance in that second game and yet still took out 65 points worth of figures. Seems like 80 is pretty plausible if even in bad games he still is earning back all but 5 of his 70 point cost.

[Lazy Orang]

Originally Posted by Yodaking

You said he had a pretty terrible performance in that second game and yet still took out 65 points worth of figures. Seems like 80 is pretty plausible if even in bad games he still is earning back all but 5 of his 70 point cost.

That was because of 1 flukey roll and a lot of the LexCorps' points being tied up in their Criminal Alliance power, though - had he got that roll for attack and defence vs. most other figures, he wouldn't have made up his points, and I don't reckon he actually did in real terms even then - it may technically be 65 points of damage, but the nature of the LexCorps is artificially inflating that a lot. I do think 80 is pretty plausible still, I'm just not certain of it based on those two performances, and right now I'm a tad more inclined towards 75.