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Old August 15th, 2017, 09:51 AM
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Re: The Book of Deathreavers

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Well it doesn't say immediately. With two things occurring at once, roll the 20-sided die to determine order.

Would Syvarris's second attack trigger scatter since it is a "double attack" and not a "normal attack"?
WHOA.

What is the precedent for rolling a d20 to reconcile things like that in Heroscape?

Edit: Also, "Double Attack" is a power that allows Syvarris to take his normal attack twice. It's not a special attack.
Yes 20-sided dice resolve timing. In HS there isn't a queue or FIFO system or priority yield. Roll for each, unless the power says immediately. If two say immediately, roll for them.
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While I know Double Attack isn't a special attack, I'm wondering if it's considered more like a leaving engagement attack than a normal, since it isn't done normally - instead through power

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Old August 15th, 2017, 10:01 AM
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Re: The Book of Deathreavers

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What happens if Syvarris attacks a Deathreaver (and doesn't kill it)?
You immediately scatter 2 rats up to 4 spaces and then Syvarris gets his 2nd attack.
Well it doesn't say immediately. With two things occurring at once, roll the 20-sided die to determine order.

Would Syvarris's second attack trigger scatter since it is a "double attack" and not a "normal attack"?
Double Attack is a special power that allows 2 normal attacks.

The rats power triggers when rolling defense - and you are still rolling defense each time you are attacked and that defense roll is resolved before the second attack is rolled.

There are many steps that happen between the first attack and second attack so 'immediately' does not have to be stated. For example, Syvarris needs to choose a target for his second attack, make sure that hit zones are visible, etc. While he is doing that - the rats are scattering.

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Old August 15th, 2017, 10:24 AM
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Re: The Book of Deathreavers

@obfuscatedhippo is correct. To be honest, I've never heard of of d20 resolving for timing in a game of HS. In every game I've played the cards have been clear enough to know in which order everything happens.
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Re: The Book of Deathreavers

Very rarely is D20 used for timing, but I have seen it for things like one figure on lava and anther on wound glyph and see which triggers first, but this is off topic to Deathreavers, as it is clearly a second attack.
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What happens if Syvarris attacks a Deathreaver (and doesn't kill it)?
You immediately scatter 2 rats up to 4 spaces and then Syvarris gets his 2nd attack.
Well it doesn't say immediately. With two things occurring at once, roll the 20-sided die to determine order.

Would Syvarris's second attack trigger scatter since it is a "double attack" and not a "normal attack"?
Double Attack is a special power that allows 2 normal attacks.

The rats power triggers when rolling defense - and you are still rolling defense each time you are attacked and that defense roll is resolved before the second attack is rolled.

There are many steps that happen between the first attack and second attack so 'immediately' does not have to be stated. For example, Syvarris needs to choose a target for his second attack, make sure that hit zones are visible, etc. While he is doing that - the rats are scattering.
It happens after rolling defense, not when, but I agree with your end conclusion. Each are in different time "phases" and Scatter comes first.
For example "after moving" =/= "before attacking"

Before attacking
Rolling attack dice
After rolling attack dice and before rolling defense dice
Rolling defense dice
After rolling defense dice
After attacking
Before attacking
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Re: The Book of Deathreavers

D20s are also used to resolve timing if both players draft the Airborne Elite. You roll the D20 to see who rolls for The Drop first.
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D20s are also used to resolve timing if both players draft the Airborne Elite. You roll the D20 to see who rolls for The Drop first.


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Re: The Book of Deathreavers

Request: An idiot's guide to using rats. I rarely play with them and I was wondering if someone would give me the skinny on how to play these guys.
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Re: The Book of Deathreavers

Tie up the range. Get as many rats to the middle of the board as you can. Scatter towards glyphs and ranged figures. When melee squads engage your rats, scatter away after the first attack so your opponent doesn't get any more attacks.
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