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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop
I'm not a huge fan of putting Frenzy on a bonding unit, since you're already essentially getting "free" turns.
I really like @superfrog 's suggestion to rename the power to Spiked Shield Defense--that makes the connection to One Shield Defense much easier for me to remember. Also, just to be clear, did you intend for people to be able to take Zogross and Drak in a Greenscale build? I'm sure you're aware, but only one of them can bond with their brethren per game, so I don't think they'd be very easy to use together (although I've always liked the idea of having two "choose one" options in a bonding army, and two cheaper Lizardfolk could make that possible). Proud Member of Platyfly!
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This is definitely an improvement. Some thoughts.
I don't like Predator. I don't think it fits the overall theme of the unit, nor the general theme of Predators. Is that just there for the extra synergy? If so, change it. I'm not sold on Relentless either. It's not bad, but it doesn't really feel like that will match how the unit plays. Again, is it just for synergy? It's not a bad extra synergy; he would fit well with the Death Knights. But as a personality I would like Wild or Ferocious would fit better. I'm with superfrog that 5 Attack feels high. I won't call it wrong, but for a medium figure with a club it doesn't quite click. I would think that Frenzy is already a decent combat boost. This is a point that may cause it to fail in Inner Sanctum Review. Combat Challenge is a bad power. That's not your fault. As written, a figure standing next to both Tandros and Drak would be unable to attack, period. That's something we could tackle in Editing, though. We would either make a new power or modify it as superfrog says. Spiked Shield Defense is a tad complicated (essentially being two powers in one), but not bad. I'm ok with it. |
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I like him as Relentless. It rings true with Frenzy and the sculpt as well.
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As I read more on Lizards I guess they aren't really considered Predators? If that's the case, as sad as it makes me to lose bonding with the Spiders, that'll be a necessary change. What class would be recommended? |
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I'd agree with Relentless fitting a Frenzy power as well, although Wild, Ferocious, or anything else could probably carry out the same meaning and avoid bonding with the Death Knights if you ever want to remove that synergy.
As for his class, I'm somewhat fond of Warlord for the added Armoc option, but that's stepping on Zogross' toes and should probably be avoided. Warrior or any other generic class would likely be fine. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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Gruoark
Missed the main conversation but didn't have much to add. I remember watching this guy's progress through the SoV his first go around, and he seems like a really fun figure. I get the hesitation on making a Troll army, but I think this guy does so in a fun, thematic way, assuming he's balanced for his strongest scenarios with all the regeneration. Drak Whiptail Also not a fan of Predator for the class (Warrior fits better IMO and would have interesting synergy with Zogross), and also feel that 4 attack is better than 5 for the sculpt. 4 is still strong and fits the club better. And I'll echo that I'm not sold on Relentless for the personality. I'm not against the bonding per se, but it feels forced to me here ... can't put my finger on why exactly. While I'm not completely against Frenzy on the card, I feel that Battle Frenzy would fit better on a bonding hero while still capturing what you're going for with the unit. Monthly Utah Tournaments in SLC!!
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To be fair, Drak is not a protective Warlord like Zogross (and giving him this theme does more to distinguish the two), but Combat Challenge and Spiked Shield Defense do give the unit a defensive feel (combined with the Greenscales' need to stay within range of him for their bonuses) that just makes Frenzy feel off. Battle Frenzy, on the other hand, feels to me like it conveys the same theme while avoiding this. Proud Member of Platyfly!
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As for class, I actually wouldn't mind Warlord personally. Warrior is a fine choice. Brute works too. |
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It's not the fault of this community collectively, of course. You can only work on your own mini. But I, for one (though there are others), would love to see something other than high fantasy out of this community. I mean, we would love it. I love me some meat & potatoes, but not every day, breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
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I don't want to put Warrior as his class because that steps on the toes of what Combat Challenge accomplishes with Zogross, so I think I'm going to go with Warlord for now. He is a war *king* after all, and I like how that gives him bonding options to the Armocs and Romans. With Frenzy, I like him bonding with the Armocs because he can stay up with them, and the Armocs and Romans also bond with Mittens who boosts Frenzy. I can't believe I didn't think of this before, but since both are Relentless assuming Drak has Frenzy, Mittens would now be a viable option for the Death Knights since him and Drak could duo. So I would like to take this back to testing intent on testing how much more Frenzy adds to his ability to lock down figures than Battle Frenzy. I have a lot of reasons for liking Frenzy, but if it is too powerful Battle Frenzy will have to do. I'm also going to lower his attack to 4, change the title of Shield Spike to Spiked Shield Defense, add the extra phrase to Combat Challenge to acknowledge two CC figures adjacent to the same figure, and change his Class to Warlord. I'm also lowering points to 120 to accommodate for the decrease in attack, although I'm sure it could be meaningless and I'll boost it up to 125 or 130 again during testing. This is what that brings us to: Quote:
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