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Re: C3G Dredd'verse workshop
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Plus, thematically, it sounds like she'd fit in as well with the X-Men as any Mutant. As @laughing matter said years ago: Quote:
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Durham Red would be the one hunting down the Brotherhood and the X-Men, she is a mutant who hunts mutants.
Though if she met up with the Brotherhood at a young age instead of the SDs, I could see her joining. This version represents her in the prime of her bounty hunting days. |
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Also, I'd be surprised if 'Mutant who hunts Mutants' wasn't represented by a Mutant in Marvel too. |
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Re: C3G Dredd'verse workshop
Bishop in his early days, maybe?
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I do definitely recall him behaving that way in the X-Men cartoons... before reforming in 2.5 seconds when he was deemed to be 'no longer needed'. Didn't know if that was comic accurate.
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If anything I'd go with bats suggestion and make them mutations... Someone once made a comment to me on a different subject but it works....I can call myself a banana, but that doesn't make me a banana. Same situation here...All the authors of 2000AD can call their characters whatever they want...but for C3G what we have settled on for the definition of Mutants...they don't fit. Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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Hmm ... there's an idea ....
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Plus, if a figure is too close to an existing design, that's a problem anyway, regardless of whether they're both Mutants or not. And I'm sorry, I don't accept that whether a figure is defined as a Mutant or a Mutate or whatever is based on empirical C3G, cross universal decisions rather than being based on a given universe. Otherwise, DC wouldn't have their own personal definition of Metahuman, and Blanka sure as hell wouldn't count as a Human. |
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DC makes no distinction between birth powers of acquired powers and in universe there isn't a reason to separate them so the term they use in universe, metahuman, works fine. Mutant is a mechanical term used in C3G to distinguish X-gene characters from ALL other groups. Regardless of universe. So not to be blunt but in this case your acceptance isn't the keystone of the project. This is probably the fifth time this argument has come about and at some point it would be nice to not have the same arguments over and over. Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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I never thought when we used the word 'mutant' it meant X-gene carrier as defined by Marvel comics only. If that is your interpretation then that is fine, but I never had that impression and I've been with the project for a long time. I don't understand why you are so passionately against having someone not from a Marvel comic book being a mutant. The thought that Prof. X or Magneto would encounter a mutant from another planet or another dimensions and go, "Hey, you're not from Marvel Earth 616 so even though you're a mutant too I won't have anything to do with you." seems thematically incorrect to me. Their whole shtick is that they are against discrimination against mutants, they just have different opinions on how to deal with it. Maybe we shouldn't be calling her a lawman either, she should be a lawwoman, I mean classic completely screwed the warwitch out of all the warlord synergy after all.
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#587
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Well as someone who has been with the project for a long time I'm shocked that you are labeling this as MY Argument. This has been an argument that has occurred many...many times. Some predate us. I'm just sticking to the principles as they've been discussed and agreed upon by those before me. If I'm coming across as passionate it's that I'm really tired of rehashing the same arguments every couple of months especially when the LD himself has already stated that she doesn't fit in with those... Also the argument that Magneto would side with all that are persecuted is bunk as well...You don't see a lot of people in BLM fighting for Hispanic or Middle Eastern people that are discriminated against...Magneto fights for "his kind" Also if we want to get really technical...Why is Professor X limited to activating 2 Mutants...does his telepathy not work as well with non mutants...Of course not but it's a system that has worked since the early days of C3G and I'm not really wanting to be quick to crap on it. Certain things I do think should be preserved but there are a ton of things (about half of what's in discussion now) that I could care less about and don't think they are really needed...but those are opinions and lots of people are excited so I do my duty for the good of the team and make sure I don't see any mechanical issues. As long as one of these figures doesn't mess up an existing figure or cause an issue with costing a future figure I'm happy to help however I can. I'm not the competitive guy...I'm the thematic guy. As long as a figure plays at least as well in their thematic build as they do in one of the competitive builds I'm perfectly fine... So lets stop pretending this is my argument and I've single-handily held this back from changing...Look at the freaking Ninja Turtles...that discussion started probably before I was even a sidekick... Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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The Ninja Turtles, IMO, were never actually a problem - they mutated from Turtles, so using Turtle as a species was fine, there was no need to make them Mutants or Mutates. Feels more iconic to make them Turtles anyway, IMO.
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