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Re: What General would each Planeswalker follow?
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Black is exemplified by "ambition." To accomplish your goals no matter who or what stands in your way. As such, I think it's a lot closer to Utgar than Valkrill; destruction is a tool for Black, not an end. Liliana is ambition personified - her demonic pacts were to amass power, and her current goal is to break those deals with the power she's gained. JOHNNY139'S CLASSIC CUSTOM THREAD! | Visit now!
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Re: What General would each Planeswalker follow?
Thank you, johnny, that does make me think that Liliana would be Utgar. Gideon sounds like a harder call--is he more about being Valiant or Disciplined? Is empire-building (Einar) part of what makes him tick?
Chandra seems like a tough call as well. Utgar is pretty much evil. It's not just chaos or emotion. Is she evil? Some of these don't translate easily into Scape terms, but it's nice to try. Thanks for helping out those of us who don't do Magic. New? Read this. | The INDEX 2.0 | Mmirg's Maps Magnify Your Scape: BoV | SoV | C3V (Playtest!) | C3G The Dice Tower Con w/ Scape! |
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Gideon is more... resolute, really. His character is kind of all over the place, mostly seems to show up as a protector. I only put Lily as Valkrill because the only demons we have in HS fight for Valkrill, and I put Chandra in Utgar. |
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Re: What General would each Planeswalker follow?
Gideon as protector makes me think of Jandar.
Chandra as a survivor willing to leave charred losses behind does have an Utgar (or Vydar) kind of feeling to it. From what Johnny said, I think Liliana is more like the Utgar side of Scape, but I understand your choice. New? Read this. | The INDEX 2.0 | Mmirg's Maps Magnify Your Scape: BoV | SoV | C3V (Playtest!) | C3G The Dice Tower Con w/ Scape! |
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In my experience Chandra is firmly on the side of good. She's a wildcard, certainly, and self-motivated above all else, but her core goals are freedom and action. Do what you want when you want and how you want. She generally avoids innocent casualties (though she's not shy about property damage) and fights against big bad evil dudes.
Recently they've been playing up two halves of Gideon - vigilante acts (I will fight for justice, the system is too slow for me!) and responsibility (joining armies, leading soldiers, carrying the burden of all). I feel like he's definitely more in the individualistic side, so yeah, I'm feeling Jandar. JOHNNY139'S CLASSIC CUSTOM THREAD! | Visit now!
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Re: What General would each Planeswalker follow?
I completely agree with you 1Mmirg. As one who also does *NOT* do magic, this thread has been very helpful to me in understanding the back story of this new game and realizing that there is more to the personality of even a fictional character than just picking a matching color.
Member: Mid-Atlantic Region 'Scapers "Strategy without tactics is the most circuitous route to victory, but great tactics without a strategy is just the cacophony before defeat." ~Sun Tzu 500 BCE |
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Re: What General would each Planeswalker follow?
I'm of the mindset that whether porting scape into AotP or the other way around the Marvel route is the way to go.
Keep the colours the colours and the generals the generals. In fact if I ever decided to make the games one, I will likley make up custom cards for the Planeswalkers and Summons using the Hex card (I love that design) but use the 5 magic colours. |
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So, based on what I've heard I'm thinking along these lines: Gideon: Jandar (Valiant/Protector) Jace: Vydar (Tricky) Nissa: Ullar (Nature/Elf) Chandra: Aquilla (Good at the core, but wild, naturalistic) Liliana: Utgar (Ambitious, power-hungry) Quote:
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This honestly is probably the best way to go, as we'll start seeing characters like Sorin Markov, who is seemingly an evil vampire, is driven completely by the need to protect the multiverse (gave the humans on his plane the power to fight back against his own family to keep balance). Or Garruk, who last I saw was turned from a protector of nature to a crazed, primal, Planewalker-hunting shell of himself. While one half of their personalities easily fit a generals (Sorin/Utgar, Garruk/Aquilla) their "secondary nature" does not befit those generals. Tezzeret is also a great example. A simple artificer, but is most known for his time being mind controlled to commit evil acts under the will of Nicol Bolas, who is 110% Grade-A Utgar material. Honestly he could probably usurp Utgar without any problem. |
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Oddly, the best way of resolving the Generals may actually be to make them Planeswalkers, with the units they summon specific to them. Utgar and Valkrill become Black, Jandar and maybe Einar as white, Ullar as Green, Vydar as Blue/Colourless, and Aquilla as Red. It is much easier trying to imagine the personality of the various generals and what colour they would follow, rather than trying to fit these Planeswalkers into one general. I think the magic history is too rich (like Superhero lore). Sure Superman is totally Jandar, but what about Ironman? Too much depth of character to pigion hole them. Now if we had ArchKyrie Figures that would be awesome! |
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You couldn't just say X general is the same as Y color, it would need to be on a figure-by-figure basis. Aquilla is a great example. While dwarves in MTG are in fact red, nothing else in Aquilla's army would fit in red. Most, if not all, would be green. |
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I don't think the C3V Team wants to touch this Porting AotP -to- HS Project, because they simply have TOO much already on their plate in trying to release another 'Classic-esque Wave' in the near future with the units that have already been announced, but not yet released. Member: Mid-Atlantic Region 'Scapers "Strategy without tactics is the most circuitous route to victory, but great tactics without a strategy is just the cacophony before defeat." ~Sun Tzu 500 BCE |
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