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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]
Bloodstride Ninjas
Echoing Shiftrex, there is definitely a Common Ninja Squad sized hole in the canon and I love the idea. Points wise, I think the closest comparison is the Specters of Aldorn. Both have PHANTOM WALK. Even. Specters' DEATHLY TOUCH doesn't require a roll but only works if the specters have the extra 2 movement to walk through and out the other side. The Ninja's METSUBUSHI SPECIAL ATTACK works on a skull roll, so statistically 50% of the time. It affects 1-7 opponents figures, all or nothing. This forces the Ninjas to focus fire on one group or 1 hero instead of able to spread out like the Specters can. (Side note: the range of 3 is weird to me, why would I use this on a figure that I can't attack immediately after. Range of 1 or 2 seems appropriate.) The single attack on a group is also more susceptible to counter-play. Edge to the Specters. 4 attacks of 2 vs 3 attacks of 3. If I did the math right, 3 attacks of 3 are better than 4 attacks of 2. Edge to the Ninjas. Specters have Levitation. Edge to Specters. Other non-bonding, 3-figure squads with a 6/1/3/3 lineup are the Deepwyrm Drow, Marro Drones, and Shaolin Monks. Drones aren't really comparable, Monks aren't really comparable and the Drow are bad. But it gives a range. I would prince them at 55 off-hand but a range of 50-70 sounds right. Gorran Immediately, the mini doesn't seem like an Outsider. To me, it looks more like Uzog. Setting that aside, INVASIVE SPECIES is cool. Agga-Zemir already has a passive movement power and so adding another could make it a theme of the faction. (Z-thoth forces movement, and Grabby ignores height, so the theme is already there actually.) You saying that his goal is to engage a choke point and then not need OMs is not like the other outsiders. The outsider heroes want to use an OM per turn so the Children can become 4-figure squads. Also he doesn't have a D20 power so the Children can't use Spirits of the Void with him. I don't mean to be harsh, but overall, this one misses the mark for me. I think you actually have the start of a good Durgeth Hero, not an Outsider. "I disagree. You're kind of right, yes, but Vydar and I are entirely right." -superfrog High Quality Map Rendering Vydar's Custom Units Vydar's Maps VC Units Base Size Spreadsheet |
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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]
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Regarding the Bloodstrides- the 3 range on the SA was originally designed so that you have the potential to throw the Metsbushi at a fellow Bloodstride who was in a good position. Again, totally open to adjusting that. Thanks for your feedback Vydar, always appreciated |
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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]
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Why doesn't that Bloodstride Ninja just use the SA? "I disagree. You're kind of right, yes, but Vydar and I are entirely right." -superfrog High Quality Map Rendering Vydar's Custom Units Vydar's Maps VC Units Base Size Spreadsheet |
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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]
I suppose it could. Perhaps the range is unnecessary.
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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]
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"I disagree. You're kind of right, yes, but Vydar and I are entirely right." -superfrog High Quality Map Rendering Vydar's Custom Units Vydar's Maps VC Units Base Size Spreadsheet |
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Re: AndreThaGiant's Customs [*NEW* GORRAN THE OUTSIDER]
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N = Ninja O = Opponent's Figure Since neither of the 2 engaged ninjas can target the center opponent's figure the unengaged ninja uses METSUBUSHI SA against the center figure to effect the ones that are engaged. Then you get 2 defense drops instead of just 1. You'd still probably prefer 3 normal attacks but that's not the point. "I disagree. You're kind of right, yes, but Vydar and I are entirely right." -superfrog High Quality Map Rendering Vydar's Custom Units Vydar's Maps VC Units Base Size Spreadsheet |
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