[Pod 0] Tetsuo Tyrell (Jace Investigator) - Compat. Testing

[Knox]

Originally Posted by caps

I think it's okay for him to be better than the Mind Flayer. It is an overpriced and underused figure.

I'll think the 19 vs 20 issue over... It is the kind of power that shouldn't necessarily trigger every game. Another dial is life; drop to 19 but also do one less life. Stay at 20 but add one life.

I'd favor 19 with 1 less life, but I don't think it matters. Tetsuo is a Runa/ KMS/ Atlaga/ Deadeye Dan style figure. Legendary in home games and totally uncompetitive outside of them.

Edit: That's a good thing, not a bad thing.

[Astroking112]

I'd be fine with 19 at 5 life, I think. One of the defining characteristics of Tetsuo IMO is just how much of a glass cannon he is, and that noticeably increases the risk of his tendency to throw out 5 attack at 5 range.

[NecroBlade]

I would prefer 20/6L to 19/5L, as lower life discourages use of Overclock.

[caps]

Let's stick with Overclock 20 and 6L; that's what's in the OP.

[caps]

Originally Posted by caps

Let's stick with Overclock 20 and 6L; that's what's in the OP.

Are we ready to finalize, here, or do we need more playtesting?
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(I'm not sure my list there is up to date, so I added Cpt S and the Pod 0 main thread list)


EDIT: After reading the playtests I'm not sure Tetsuo is done with playtesting. I'd like to see a few exploit type builds for him, and see him against some armies where he has potential to create an unfun matchup for the other player.

[Captain Stupendous]

Originally Posted by caps

Let's stick with Overclock 20 and 6L; that's what's in the OP.

This sounds good to me.

[NecroBlade]

What kind of exploits and unfun matchups do you have in mind, @caps ?

[caps]

I had some things in mind... But I don't know what they were. Myrddin perhaps.

And I'm drawing a blank on unfun matchups... I think I was thinking of army compositions where his potential for 5 attack is unfun for the opponent.

[caps]

Not a great showing for Tetsuo but I thought I'd post it here anyway. Game log is https://www.heroscapers.com/ohs/index.php?log=635c0d45780431666977093.html]here[/url] and google doc (with movement history) is here.


TL;DR I think he put some wounds on Heirloom and maybe killed a WF or two but didn't ever get a Mindjack.

[caps]

Bol
Horned Skull Brutes x3
Tetsuo Tyrell
345 Points, 11 Figures, 11 Hexes
Settings: VC, Delta Points

vs

Acolarh
Aubrien Archers x2
Otonashi
Warriors of Ashra x2
345 Points, 14 Figures, 14 Hexes
Settings: VC, Delta Points

Overclocked at least twice, killed 1 WoA, was blocked several times at range, and countered by Home Tree Aura at least twice. Never got to try a Mindjack. Took multiple LEAs (dodging each one ) to make ranged attacks, too. Kind of a bummer game for Tet.

An unsurprising win for the elves in this one.

You can view the map (including figure placement history) here.

[caps]

We're at something like 16-17 playtests here. I think it is time to settle on a point value and call for a final vote, unless anyone has concerns after reading the playtest results.

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[NecroBlade]

Linked more playtests in the OP. When I have time to go through them I'll take a look at proposing points/vote.