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Re: The Book of Wyvern

Mostly because we're in the book of the Wyvern

It's also a matter of point cost. The special attack is very strong, and he's very fast. You could do 3x Spiders, 2x Wyvern, and Sujoah and that's 505 points. Or 1 Wyvern at 405. Sujoah can be fragile, surprisingly more than Nilfheim, especially as a melee figure. It was mentioned earlier in the thread, Estivara and a Wyvern is just more durable and Estivara has almost the same potential as Sujoah for 105 points less.

I think Sujoah is a big threat to a lot of models that are worth much less points, so you never really earn points back on him. He also tends to just die to shooting. Raelin can mess with his special attack and taking out Raelin first means there's more attacks against you. In high point games or games that limit model count fairly low, his value does increase.

Sujoah with 2 squads of spiders is 265 points, so you can fill out the other 235 or so with a lot of options, and there's something to be said about that. It could even be fairly competitive with 3 squads of Stingers and Marro Warriors at 500. I would side more on the side of 2 Wyverns with 3 squads of spiders at 320, though, it's a lot more durability and their own Poison Sting is still something of a threat.

He basically has all the problems of double spaced melee figures while also being incredibly expensive for it. Yes, you will just destroy Q9 or Cyprien or a dragon in a game. But you'll also have 5 games where Sujoah does nothing of note and dies for it.

Since you have 1 squad of Spiders and 1 Wyvern, they could totally work with Sujoah. Spiders in that instance just give you a place to put OMs to be flexible, though you'll only get 1 attack per turn with either hero. There's also something to be said about suiciding your Sujoah to kill their Q9 by the second OM of the game, and then having Estivara as cleanup for all the other heroes they may bring.

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Re: The Book of Wyvern

I also had no idea the potential of Estivara but with a few spider squads she can be very deadly as you have noted just as deadly as Sujoah

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Re: The Book of Wyvern

Does the fortress door arch count as an overhang? Meaning, if a figure is in the archway directly in the middle, can a Wyvern still grab that figure or is that an illegal use of Talon Grab?
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Re: The Book of Wyvern

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Does the fortress door arch count as an overhang? Meaning, if a figure is in the archway directly in the middle, can a Wyvern still grab that figure or is that an illegal use of Talon Grab?
Since castle walls are technically terrain, I'd assume that would count as an overhang.

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