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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

Dr. Jekyll’s tests:
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PLAYTEST UNIT: Captain Cold(II)

Army Test
Map: Alkali Lake
Units: Captain Cold(II), The Top, Mirror Master, Weather Wizard 615 VS Flash(Barry Allen), Batman(II), Robin(Tim Drake) 620
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Army Test
Map: Alkali Lake
Units: Captain Cold(II), Pied Piper, Girder, Captain Boomerang 605 VS Nightwing, Starfire, Changeling 600
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: I treated Captain Cold like a captain should be treated I tried to keep him close but not too close. I didn't want him in the think of things because I didn't want to lose those extra turns. It was almost to much. I feel like if a rogue had a revealed order marker that round they should not be able to take an additional turn. I was only lucky once with the Rogue Contingency Plan. It was pretty sweet though, it helps alot when that's your next move. Flash Freeze really makes you think about who and where you want to move. You tend to send in a decoy to freeze first so you can move forward with the power house.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: I had fun playing with Captain Cold. This is definitely a cool design and makes rogues a much bigger threat. I can't wait for the release! Thank you for letting me test him. Please let me know what I can improve on in my playtesting or if you are happy with this style.
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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

Hoo, some butt whoopings there by the Rogues.

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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

Not super surprised by the first game, cause the enemy army wasn’t all that solid. But that second game kicking the butt of a solid Titans build is something.
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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

Yeah, taking down the Titans (without Top) in the 2nd game is an eye opener. Maybe we should rein something in somewhere. I just don't know what. I really like everything how it is.
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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

I have a few ideas for tweaks:
- Change the bonding to move or attack, not full bonding
- Remove Flash Freeze for something useless like Ice Resistance
- Reduce Range on everything to 5, forcing Cold more into the action

I’m not sure the latter changes would be enough, so I’m leaning towards the first option. I’m open to ideas though if anyone else has anything.
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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

Him not having Ice Resistance is weird to me either way. Did I miss discussion on that?
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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

You could force both Rogues taking turns to be within 6 clear sight spaces of Cold. That'd get him in the action more.

Not surprised he's coming in a bit strong. He's basically Professor X for Rogues with beefier stats.

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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

We never discussed it. I thought it was weird too, but Cold (I) doesn’t have it either.

Also I do like Jekyll’s idea for a change, so that’s another option.

Both Rogues being in 6 spaces is smart. Maybe that combined with the Flash Freeze removal.
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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

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We never discussed it. I thought it was weird too, but Cold (I) doesn’t have it either.

Also I do like Jekyll’s idea for a change, so that’s another option.

Both Rogues being in 6 spaces is smart. Maybe that combined with the Flash Freeze removal.
Hmm, I realized looking through the thread just now that I neglected to run the calculator here. My bad! The current draft in the SP would come in at about 240, I believe.

Are you wanting 200 to be his ceiling? If so, I'd suggest the following:

-1 Range (5 points)
-1 Defense (15 points)
Either 6 spaces for both Rogues (20 points) or change to Ice Resistance from Flash Freeze (25 points)

Fwiw, I like Flash Freeze, so I'd probably go -1 Range, -1 Defense, and put both Rogue activations at 5 spaces (to match the reduced range). I think that'd put 200 as more his ceiling.

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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

Yeah, I’m leaning towards keeping Flash Freeze if at all possible just cause it’s the only cold power on our Captain Cold.
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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

I feel like 200 is a thematic ceiling. It’s not the end of the world if he goes above that, but a bigger change is needed now.

Your suggested tweaks seem like a good path forward (-1 range to everything, -1 defense, both Rogues must be within 5 spaces). But I’ll let some other people pitch in their thoughts before deciding on something.
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Re: The Book of Captain Cold (II) (public playtesting)

Sounds good. Just let me know. Planning to at least set up my tests tonight.

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