Project Pokemon Design Thread: VENUSAUR!

[White Knight]

I like Dream Eater and Hypnosis on Haunter.

I see Destiny Bond for Gengar--a power that you activate at the start of the game and then you have a good chance to take down figure with it when Gengar is destroyed.

[minimoose38]

Originally Posted by White Knight

I like Dream Eater and Hypnosis on Haunter.

I see Destiny Bond for Gengar--a power that you activate at the start of the game and then you have a good chance to take down figure with it when Gengar is destroyed.

I would agree with this.

[Kroz]

Originally Posted by minimoose38

I would agree with this.

You could have destiny bond with shadow stalk and shadow ball.

[fiddlerjones]

Originally Posted by Kroz

You could have destiny bond with shadow stalk and shadow ball.

I could see that. Really one iteration should have Destiny Bond/Shadow Stalk/Shadow Ball and the other should get Hypnosis/Dream Eater. However, I think Dream Eater's restriction should read "a figure with either no order markers or a Sleep Status Marker," so that in a non-Pokescape game, you can use it sometimes without having to directly set it up.

[minimoose38]

I think Haunter should have the Hypnosis/Dream Eater combo, while Gengar should have Shadow Ball/Destiny Bond. Shadow Sneak is a physical move and you wouldn't really have it on either of these two Special Attack orientated ghosts, though the ability does fit thematically. Having Dream eater affect Sleep status figures as well as Order Marker-less figures is a must though.

[Kroz]

Originally Posted by minimoose38

I think Haunter should have the Hypnosis/Dream Eater combo, while Gengar should have Shadow Ball/Destiny Bond. Shadow Sneak is a physical move and you wouldn't really have it on either of these two Special Attack orientated ghosts, though the ability does fit thematically. Having Dream eater affect Sleep status figures as well as Order Marker-less figures is a must though.

Agreed about dream-eater although you mistake where I got my shadow-stalk power from. It's not a pokemon move but a power I created by looking at the pokedex and seeing the common entries and designing a power from that description. Shadow stalk is merely a combination of Pelloth's and Othkurik's powers. I felt it thematic personally.

Random note, not every pokemon we make has to be made in such a way that it reflects the "competitive" pokemon builds. Some of these pokemon will be wild pokemon in scenarios. Can Pikachu learn surf? Yes he can (in yellow version at least). But does that mean that we have to give pikachu surf because it would be a good move that a competitive pikachu trainer would have? No, it doesn't.

I after looking at the powers think that Haunter, should get the Dream Eater/Hypnosis combo, and that Gengar, the last incarnation should the more offensive combo of Destiny-bond/Shadow ball/Shadow Stalk. Personally to me this makes the most sense. For a ghost pokemon army, you have Haunters and Gastlies that move out, Haunters putting pokemon to sleep and Gastlies cursing them. Then you can move out Gengar who can then put the hurt on the weakened army and if he dies, well they lose a big hero.