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Old August 14th, 2018, 11:32 AM
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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

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Well, he costs twice as much as Vertigo, so I guess Disorientation is OK. It's a strong power, but Vertigo is still probably better if you're just using him to boost other figures (Rogue synergy isn't that amazing after all).

Spinning Top is insanely good against low-defense figures. Maybe cap the number of hits, a-la-Speedball? Otherwise he just wipes out entire armies of common figures in one turn.
That's an excellent point.... I'd definitely like a cap so you don't just suddenly find all your Moloids/HYDRA Agents/insert cannon-fodder here are dead in one turn.


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Old August 14th, 2018, 11:49 AM
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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

Yeah, it's even worse than Speedball because Speedball can only kill 4 figures. Top gets to use a stomp-style special, then move and do it again, repeatedly.
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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

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Yeah, it's even worse than Speedball because Speedball can only kill 4 figures. Top gets to use a stomp-style special, then move and do it again, repeatedly.
I brought up the Speedball comparison in the workshop, so that was a concern for me as well.

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

I honestly think capping it at 2 attacks is fine. If he does wounds twice in a row it was already a good turn and he's only likely to do more in the cases where he's up against a bunch of cannon fodder.
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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

Thanks for the feedback dok! Japes, sorry I missed your workshop comment! Having a cap is perfectly reasonable. For now, I've capped it at 2 attacks (against all figures next to him), but if it proves too weak, we can always make it 3.

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Having a cap was a good idea. yea
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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

Exploding Top should be 'within 1 space of the chosen space' instead of 'adjacent'.

Anyway, having two different 'explosion' style attacks on the same card seems a bit inelegant to me, but no real concerns with the cap in place.

Disorientation is the real meat of the card though. I'm a bit worried about stacking him with Vertigo plus figures that can count blanks as skulls or otherwise don't mind blanks for some reason or another.

Just a thought, but could Disorientation be changed to a similar power that only works for Rogues but counts on special attacks? Seems odd to me that the other Rogues are mostly bad picks to pair with him right now thanks to all the special attacks they use, especially considering how they're one of the tighter villain groups out there, and it doesn't seem like him working with anyone outside of them is super necessary.


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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

If you could make Captain Cold's SA better, that would be a real boon to team Rogue!
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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

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Just a thought, but could Disorientation be changed to a similar power that only works for Rogues but counts on special attacks? Seems odd to me that the other Rogues are mostly bad picks to pair with him right now thanks to all the special attacks they use, especially considering how they're one of the tighter villain groups out there, and it doesn't seem like him working with anyone outside of them is super necessary.
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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

Interesting. I still have love for Cap Cold I, so if you could make him more effective, that's great.

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Re: The Book of The Top (Vote for Initial Playtesting)

I'm satisfied with that direction. It's a good tradeoff for limiting Spinning Top and since he won't be outside of Rogue armies much anyways, it feels reasonable.

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