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That said, an all Assassin build is going to be a stronger option for Willie most of the time, but that's primarily because Assassin is just a better class right now. There are no 'big ticket' Thieves, and many of the current ones are counter-drafts or just plain mediocre. I don't really have a problem with that though, thematically Kingpin's probably most strongly tied to Assassins anyway and a team of all 'guys who steal your stuff' probably shouldn't be the best choice in a game whose standard objective is murdering the hell out of everyone on the other team. The Soundwarpscape version does actually have way to 'clear the name' of the framed hero by killing or mind-shackling Kingpin, I left that off here mostly to match up with Lady Shiva's power (I forgot about JJ) and to save space since this version has specific classes it had to call out. I certainly don't have a problem adding something similar back in though. My Repaints and Mods: Updated 1-13 My Custom Cards: Updated 4-15 My Custom Superheroes: Updated 1-13 My figure images for online games: Alliance figures, Utgar figures My Etsy Store |
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Maybe limit Kingpin to working with only human criminal/thief/assassins just to prevent the Star Lord bonus stacking. That would really limit his options though so I'm not sure if it is really worth it. Not a big fan of the idea of turning Star-Lord & Kingpin into a super team so any ideas to shut that down would be welcome.
The other good point Dok brings up is the Wrecking Crew does not need the easy defense boost. They don't use the X OM so perhaps making the bonus work off a revealed OM on Kingpins card would be enough to keep that combo in check. Not sure about having Kingpin always going first though, I see him more as a guy who sits back initially and lets his goons do their thing first. So maybe have the boost only work within an aura so you at least need to divert an OM to Kingpin once in a while in order to keep him close to the action and thus easier to attack by the opponent. Right now he can just chill in the start zone while the wrecking crew runs all around the map. |
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While I just had way too much fun with the Star-Lord stuff, it's actually relatively weak. Kingpin forces you to go 1 OM on each in order to get the bonus, and Star-Lord forces you to not have any backup options if one goes down. So basically the whole idea behind the build dies as soon as one hero goes down.
The Kingpin + Wrecking Crew stuff is far more concerning. |
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My only real thought is that a Frame-Up works well for an opponent's figure (breaking synergy) but, thematically, wouldn't make Daredevil suddenly start robbing banks. I think that would feel more like blackmail - "you work for me or else." Really just a name tweak there.
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I think it'd be cool if he worked with Crime Lords too - I mean, he is the Kingpin, Crime Lords bow to him. Perhaps tack that on to the Criminal set? I mean, they're linked with Criminals thematically and synergistically anyway, see the the Street Thugs and Hired Guns. Good to see him working with Thieves (particularly since Shocker's one for reasons I'll never understand - always wished he worked with the Kingpin) - I feel Thieves have been overlooked for synergy for a long time and it's only recently getting better. Quote:
I have a custom Kingpin I'm pretty happy with, but I've always been disappointed by the official one and this design looks really interesting, so I'm very much intrigued. |
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Shocker rules!
Kingpin + Lady Shiva allows any Vigilante(Punisher) to be an Assassin. A cloud can change its semblance, yet retain its will With the intimacy of destruction, One knows what it is to be alive The empty sky holds no reflection, for sorrow - Eslo Rudkey |
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His points would have to jump as a Criminal(at least in today's C3G Criminal synergy).
I like that he is an awesome loner. A cloud can change its semblance, yet retain its will With the intimacy of destruction, One knows what it is to be alive The empty sky holds no reflection, for sorrow - Eslo Rudkey |
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