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Re: The Book of Chucky (Charles Lee Ray)

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Re: The Book of Chucky (Charles Lee Ray)

BARBIE MODE
After moving a figure you control that started its movement adjacent to Chucky, you may place Chucky on any empty space adjacent to that figure. Chucky is never attacked when leaving engagements. If Chucky has not attacked or inflicted a wound on an opponent's figure yet this game, and is not the only figure you control on the battlefield, he cannot be targeted by an enemy figure for attacks or special powers and he does not prevent figures engaged with him from making attacks against non-adjacent figures.

Something like that, maybe?

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Re: The Book of Chucky (Charles Lee Ray) (Breathing)

EDIT: superninja'ed!

OK, so my suggestion would be:
  1. Split the carried/disengage part of Barbie mode into its own power
  2. Flesh out the Barbie Mode description to explain the engagement cancellation while choosing targets (only then, so LEAs are still allowed)
  3. Reference Barbie Mode in Play Dead, so as to avoid repeating all that
So...
CARRIED TOY
After moving a figure you control that started its movement adjacent to Chucky, you may place Chucky on any empty space adjacent to that figure. Chucky is never attacked when leaving engagements.

BARBIE MODE
If Chucky has not attacked or inflicted a wound on an opponent's figure yet this game, and is not the only figure you control on the battlefield, Chucky cannot be targeted by an enemy figure for attacks or special powers, and figures are not considered engaged with Chucky when choosing targets.

CHILD'S PLAY
After Chucky or an adjacent figure you control attacks a figure adjacent to Chucky, if the defending figure is not destroyed, you must roll the 20-sided die. Add 3 to the roll if the attacking figure is a Slasher or Tormentor, or instead 6 to the roll if the attacking figure is Chucky. If you roll:
• 6 or lower, the attacking figure receives a wound.
• 7-16, nothing happens.
• 17 or higher, the defending figure receives a wound.

PLAY DEAD
Whenever Chucky receives enough wounds to be destroyed in any way except by this special power, instead of placing those wounds you must roll 1 unblockable attack die against Chucky, and he cannot be targeted for attacks or special powers is considered in Barbie Mode for the remainder of the current player's turn.
Unrelated, but Play Dead in its current form also feels a bit excessive. Maybe I feel that way because it hit a bunch of times the one time I played against him, but it's still weird to me that we'd give an 85 point figure a defensive power from an Asgardian God. In many ways it's much better here, because Balder relies on his high life and defense and is often only at one life anyway, while Chucky is frequently blocking a 3 or 4-wound hit cold with this power. I'm pretty sure he's the hardest figure to kill under 100 points in the game, and I don't think it's very close.

I'd suggest just having him take the wound automatically; in practice I think he still usually gets to use the second half of the power most of the time.
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Re: The Book of Chucky (Charles Lee Ray)

I don’t think that change is necessary nor warranted given he was tested as-is to balanced results. I would think it’s just a lucky/unlucky experience you witnessed, which we’ve all had I’m sure. I’ve had Hal Jordan destroy my opponent’s entire 1,500 point team alone, which is certainly not the normal. I’ve played multiple games with Chucky where he took 3 wounds right away then his first play dead roll saw him die.

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Re: The Book of Chucky (Charles Lee Ray)

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After moving a figure you control that started its movement adjacent to Chucky, you may place Chucky on any empty space adjacent to that figure. Chucky is never attacked when leaving engagements. If Chucky has not attacked or inflicted a wound on an opponent's figure yet this game, and is not the only figure you control on the battlefield, he cannot be targeted by an enemy figure for attacks or special powers and he does not prevent figures engaged with him from making attacks against non-adjacent figures.

Something like that, maybe?
This still feels clean and simple to me.

Fwiw, I had no issues with Chuckles either when I tested him. Tough to put down sometimes? Absolutely. Broken? Not in isolation at least.

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Updated with suggested wording.

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I thought changes like this require the reevaluation process. This was just brought up in Cosmic Boy.
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I thought changes like this require the reevaluation process. This was just brought up in Cosmic Boy.
Haven't followed the Cosmic Boy stuff, but in this case, it's a wording update for clarity, unless I'm mistaken?

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Re: The Book of Chucky (Charles Lee Ray)

I guess it depends on how he was tested.
Though in Cosmic Boy's case it did not matter.
I really do not care but quozl may.
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Re: The Book of Chucky (Charles Lee Ray)

I believe it's a matter of this part of Barbie Mode: "he cannot be targeted by an enemy figure for attacks or special powers". This was intended to mean Chucky does not prevent adjacent figures from targeting non-adjacent figures. However, that's not clear enough. Thus, the add-on wording suggestion.

From my understanding, that was always the intent, and is how he was tested. That being said, this effectively makes Chucky less of a concern/broken design than he was being treated by dok and LordV, so I'd see no reason to warrant anything more in this case. If we were trying to make him better or error in the favor of increasing his effectiveness, then that's another conversation.

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Just saying you may want to clear things before making changes.
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Re: The Book of Chucky (Charles Lee Ray)

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Just saying you may want to clear things before making changes.


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Are you ok with me making a wording clarification change here to avoid any further confusion?

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After moving a figure you control that started its movement adjacent to Chucky, you may place Chucky on any empty space adjacent to that figure. Chucky is never attacked when leaving engagements. If Chucky has not attacked or inflicted a wound on an opponent's figure yet this game, and is not the only figure you control on the battlefield, he cannot be targeted by an enemy figure for attacks or special powers and he does not prevent figures engaged with him from making attacks against non-adjacent figures.

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