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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen
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Re: The Book of Cathar Spearmen
I fixed it, although not in your suggested way
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That hurts, but I'm sure that I'll get over it eventually.
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When you look at their D20 braced spear special its basically an upgraded engagement strike from the Nakitas which similar to the spear men have a long list of cripplingly powerful specials, but they are unique squad that costs 40 pts per figure vs a common squad that costs 18.5 points per figure. Also, as they stand right now I don't see how they aren't A+ rank. They are just strait up better than the other A rank melee squads. Last edited by Looking East; September 11th, 2018 at 02:13 AM. |
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Wouldn't argue with dok. If dok thinks a unit's not OP, it probably means it isn't.
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The Cathars are definitely good, but they aren't the best thing in the game. A rank is where they should be, A+ is where the truly broken things reside.
I made a post a few pages back describing what I think would have been a more thematic version of Braced Spear. The idea was that a braced spear should be more effective against bigger things, and the power should reflect that. So the D20 rolls became; Small a 20, Medium 18 - 20, Large 16 - 20, Huge 14 - 20. Anything that's huge is going to have the life to tank a few hits, and it helps keep them from being as annoyingly powerful against the vast majority of melee squads. You can of course tweak these numbers as needed to bring them to whatever balance you see fit. My Custom Designs.
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Take 10 points off the Knights of Blackgaard and slap them on these guys and we'll call it even.
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I'd probably price these at 90 given another swing at it, but yeah, pretty much.
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Yes, that was my thought also. In my experience, a grade of A and mild regret over the price is the correct response.
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I guess to make things more fair both sides should get a Raelin since she is so brokenly strong in a melee only match up that she would really skew the results if she was on one side but not the other. My guess is the best approach would be using extremely cheap bonded melee squads capable of throwing a lot of attack dice per OM. They need to be very low cost so that they don't just lose to attrition from the D20 and they need to throw a lot of attack dice to overcome the godly defense the spearmen have. Since there would be no Zelrig style specials to worry about probably the bonded orcs or romans would fair decently since they are super cheap and could huddle up for bonuses without penalty. I'm curious enough now to try actually making a game of it next time I get together with my friends to play. Perhaps we will have a "Beat the Cathar Spearmen Challenge Night" to see if anyone can do it. |
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Spoiler Alert!
Spoilered the whole post for length reasons. You seem to have missed this part of my post: Quote:
Are you running Knights of Weston? Use Sir Gilbert or Finn to engage the Cathars and some 4th Mass to soften them up. What about Romans? Bring on the Azurite Warlord to engage, and 4th Mass or 10th Reg paired with Marcus to pour on the fire. Heavy Gruts? Use Ornak to fling Krug or an Ogre Warhulk into them, or Moltenclaw to break their lines. Axegrindwrs of the Burning Forge? Mok and Morgrimm Forgehammer will carry their weight and then some. Capuan Gladiators? It might suck to be you, to be honest, but the Steamroller ain’t perfect. I guess my point here is that if your opponent keeps crushing your scissors with his rock, maybe try a piece of paper. Preferably one with a pattern that doesn’t clash. *Anyone not named Matthias C3V/SoV The Pre-Sov Workshop Xorlof's Handy-Dandy Card Creator My Customs: Ullar Cavalry Faction, 4/24/23 HOW I GOT MY TITLE Last edited by Son of Arathorn; September 11th, 2018 at 06:07 PM. |
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