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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

Well it definitely pushes her towards Robin builds, which is, good, I think?

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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

Any thoughts on cost here? Don't want her much over 200 if possible. But being a younger Cassie I figure tweaking stats is the easiest way of bringing her down a bit.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

I'm getting 205.

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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

Cool, right ballpark then. I was going to throw some armies together this afternoon and set up tonight, but the draft distracted me
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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

Right?

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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (Cassandra Sandsmark) (II)

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YOUNG JUSTICE ATTACK PLAN
If each of your Order Markers are on a different Army Card, once per figure turn any Titan or Sidekick you control with an order marker on it's card that is engaged to an enemy figure and is not adjacent to any other figures you control adds 1 die to its attack.
Updating with this change to hopefully cut down on any OM movement cheesiness with Nightwing. Not SURE it's needed, but being safe right this moment. I'll set her up at 200 and going to try to get some armies put together and get an initial done before the con.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

Cool.

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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Wonder Girl

Army Test
Summary: Not a great showing for Young Justice. They were cut down at their knees. Robin started out pretty scary, grabbing height easily and rolling 5 attack, but even then he couldn’t get any wounds. Superboy dying in essentially one hit really hurt them, too (He had one wound from saving Robin once)
Map: Custom
Units: Wonder Girl (200), Robin (Tim 2), CM Jr, Superboy (Kon), Robin (Dick) (1000)

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Fantastic Four




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Army Test
Summary: I really thought the Xmen had this one, but Wonder Girl cleaned up at the end. Though her abilities felt a bit lackluster. Robin dies real quick, and Hit Anything is basically useless, so I’m going to tweak it a bit.
Map: Custom
Units: Wonder Girl (200), Robin (Tim 2), Arsenal, Starfire, CM Jr, Superboy (Kon) (1300)

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X-Men, Aurora, Armor (1300)




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Army Test
Summary: WG is feeling better with the changes to Hit Anything, but they were still slaughtered.
Map: Custom
Units: Wonder Girl (200), Starfire, Raven, Nightwing (800)

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Wrecking Crew




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Army Test
Summary: Now that I have some tweaks and a feel for the new characters, it’s going much better. Robin doesn’t really want to engage, just pick away from range and give his Deduction support. WG is solid on her own, with the Attack Plan being a nice bonus, but now Hit Anything is actually possibly her best ability! Autowounds and lockdown is very nice with Robin and other squishier people around.
Map: Custom
Units: Wonder Girl (190), Robin (YJ), Superboy, Arrowette, Batgirl (Cassie)

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Wrecking Crew




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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY:
She might need some fine tuning, but I think she’s getting there. Not sure she’s on par with Nightwing, but definitely plays different! She still likes Superboy a LOT, though. Especially to keep Robin safe. But her “Hit Anything” power does a better job of that now without Superboy, at least.


GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT:
Pretty happy here! Obviously you want ground pounders, but having Arrowette in reserve is really cool. Her and Robin are fairly formidable, so I think we’re on the right track!
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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

So I tweaked her Hit Anything to this:


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If an enemy figure in clear sight of Wonder Girl engaged with only one Titan or Sidekick you control would move, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 15 or higher, that figure receives one wound. Add 4 to the roll if there is an Order Marker on this card. You may only roll for this power once for each figure you control.

That way it encourages Markers on WG, also the enemy figures don't need to start their turn for it to activate, it activates while they move past, which helps protect figures like Robin, who is sniping from behind and providing the defense reduction. Obviously I'm sure the wording needs work. I think the intent is clear.


Also cleaned up the first power a little, so I want to move to public testing with this:



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NAME = WONDER GIRL
SECRET IDENTITY = CASSANDRA SANDSMARK

SPECIES = OLYMPIAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = TITAN
PERSONALITY = AMBITIOUS

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5
MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 5
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 200?


YOUNG JUSTICE ATTACK PLAN
As long as you control no Army Cards with more than 1 Order Marker on it, once per figure turn any Titan or Sidekick with you control that is engaged to an enemy figure and is not adjacent to any other figures you control adds 1 die to its attack.

HIT ANYTHING THAT’S MOVING!
If an enemy figure in clear sight of Wonder Girl engaged with only one Titan or Sidekick you control would move, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 15 or higher, that figure receives one wound. Add 4 to the roll if there is an Order Marker on this card. You may only roll for this power once for each figure you control.

COUNTER STRIKE
When rolling defense dice against a normal attack from an adjacent attacking figure, all excess shields count as unblockable hits on the attacking figure.

SUPERSTRENGTH

FLYING

Might go down to 180 or 190, but I think 200 is a fine place to start.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

Actually, after second thought I'm thinking this:

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As long as you control no Army Cards other than Wonder Girl with more than 1 Order Marker on it, once per figure turn any Titan or Sidekick with you control that is engaged to an enemy figure and is not adjacent to any other figures you control adds 1 die to its attack.
That way she's always the backup when the rest of your team goes down. Currently she can't use the attack boost if you only have 2-3 figures left. If we let the OMs be on WG's card, then at least she can get into the fray, even though you'd want to normally protect her. I think it still encourages spreading them out because of that.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

I think that's a good update. Keeps the boost going as the army goes down, and lets her still feel aggressive. I dig it. Hit Anything that Moves is a fun lockdown power.
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Re: The Book of Wonder Girl (II) ~ Initial Testing

Cool. I'll wait for a few more comments before updating and proposing testing. Decent amount of changes, but I think we're in a good place right now.
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