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Old September 26th, 2019, 02:26 AM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Reasonable. 2A/7R at 45 points maybe.
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Old September 28th, 2019, 11:24 PM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Okay, so I've got a few power names changes for the Dwarven faction I'm working on, but I want some feedback before I go and add these onto to cards, and resubmit.

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See spoiler for original cards.

Tenacity changed to:
Seasoned Warriors
Seasoned Veterans

Strategic Charge changed to:
Adrenaline Rush
Adrenaline Burst

Imposing Threat changed to:
Protector of Ironstone
Sentinel of Ironstone

And should Dalmar's Class be changed to Sentinel, or Protector to reflect this name change? Also Imposing Threat will no longer mention the size of the figure being attacked, but will instead affect the figure that is attacking, as long as they are Small Medium and Large figures, because while a dwarf could probably inhibit a Zombie Hulk a little bit, he is not going to be able to suppress Jotun no matter how hard he tries.

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Old September 29th, 2019, 03:00 AM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I like Seasoned Warriors, Adrenaline Burst, and Protector of Ironstone. I like changing the class name to Protector.

I would still remove Adrenaline burst from the hero and just give him 5 move.

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Old September 29th, 2019, 04:10 AM
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I’m fairly happy with any of those, except perhaps that Seasoned Warriors/Veterans feels like it could describe almost any squad in the game. I liked the initial similarity you drew between Fearless Advantage, Indomitable, and Tenacity among dwarf squads, and it would be cool to still have that in some way. Tenacity itself was never the name that bothered me specifically, though, so other judges may see it differently.
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Old September 29th, 2019, 04:48 AM
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I like Seasoned Warriors, Adrenaline Burst, and Protector of Ironstone. I like changing the class name to Protector.

I would still remove Adrenaline burst from the hero and just give him 5 move.
Oh right, I meant to say that I was going to make that change as well. 5 move for Dalmar.
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I’m fairly happy with any of those, except perhaps that Seasoned Warriors/Veterans feels like it could describe almost any squad in the game. I liked the initial similarity you drew between Fearless Advantage, Indomitable, and Tenacity among dwarf squads, and it would be cool to still have that in some way. Tenacity itself was never the name that bothered me specifically, though, so other judges may see it differently.
That's fair. Although I think that a unique squad is likely to be more seasoned than a common. I would like to have a power name that is similar to "Fearless" and "Indomitable", but nothing came to me that also described the mechanic of the power without basically just being a synonym of Tenacity. Seasoned Warriors is also generic enough that it could be reused in future designs, so I think that's neat.
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I’m fairly happy with any of those, except perhaps that Seasoned Warriors/Veterans feels like it could describe almost any squad in the game.
I have a feeling the Blade Gruts, Arrow Gruts and Ashigaru would disagree with you sir.


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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Seasoned Veterans sounds redundant to me. I much prefer Seasoned Warrior, although like AYP I don't really feel like it fits the Fearless Advantage/Indomitable mold. My impression earlier was that the name Adrenaline would be used for this power, which I personally like, but that's not something that personally bothers me enough for a down vote.

I have a slight preference for Adrenaline Rush over Adrenaline Burst. It flows a little better in my opinion, though both are pretty much equal.

I think that Protector for the class and Protector of Ironstone work better for justifying the "Imposing Threat" power. Sentinel could be an interesting choice, but it's not as immediately thematic as Protector is for quite literally protecting his allies.
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

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Seasoned Veterans sounds redundant to me. I much prefer Seasoned Warrior, although like AYP I don't really feel like it fits the Fearless Advantage/Indomitable mold.
Technically redundant, to a degree at least, but also a regualarly used and accepted phrase. I actually prefer it to Seasoned Warrior.


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Seasoned Veterans sounds redundant to me. I much prefer Seasoned Warrior, although like AYP I don't really feel like it fits the Fearless Advantage/Indomitable mold.
Technically redundant, to a degree at least, but also a regualarly used and accepted phrase. I actually prefer it to Seasoned Warrior.
That's fair enough. I don't use the term very frequently myself, so it feels stranger. Either way, it's not something that I would vote down over.
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

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Seasoned Veterans sounds redundant to me. I much prefer Seasoned Warrior, although like AYP I don't really feel like it fits the Fearless Advantage/Indomitable mold.
Technically redundant, to a degree at least, but also a regualarly used and accepted phrase. I actually prefer it to Seasoned Warrior.
I agree with LO here. "Seasoned Veteran" is a well-established term. "Seasoned Warrior" doesn't add anything. "Veteran" tells you that the seasoning came from battle; "warrior" is somewhat more generic. Fighting in an arena? Training exercises? "Veteran" says to me, this guy has fought in battles against foes.

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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

Alright.
Great Axes of Ironstone:
Tenacity changed to: Seasoned Veterans

Strategic Charge changed to: Adrenaline Burst

Dalmar Stonewall:
Imposing Threat changed to: Protector of Ironstone
• Dalmar's class changed to Protector to reflect the change.
• Imposing Threat (now Ironstone Protector) no longer mentions the size of the figure being attacked, but instead restricts the size of the figure that it can lower the attack of to Small, Medium and Large.
• Charge ability dropped from Dalmar, and the base move raised to 5.

Are there any other issues that anyone has with the design before I submit?
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Re: The Pre-SoV Workshop

I like the changes all around. Protector is fine, though you could consider Leader too, given the Migol precedent.

How tied are you to Steadfast? Seems like the existing Resolute would work fine.
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