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READ THIS FIRST - Rules for using the trading forum!

Heroscapers.com Trading Forum Rules

You can use heroscapers.com to arrange trades with your fellow 'scapers, but it is subject to the following rules:

1) Liability. Heroscapers.com, the moderators and admins cannot accept any liability for any losses incurred from the use of this forum. We do not in any way guarantee transactions. If you are a victim of any activity you feel is illegal, then please report this to the trading moderators or admins who will try to help you. We encourage defrauded traders to seek assistance from the police and we actively assist the police to secure a conviction, if possible.

2) Rules and penalties. By posting in the Sales and Trades forum you agree to abide by all of the rules of this forum, including those below, and agree not to enter into any arguments with moderators or admins, whose decision is final and are empowered to issue penalties at their discretion varying from warnings to such things as:
  • having your rep count reduced,
  • awarding you an undesirable title,
  • modifying your avatar/signature, or
  • banning.

3) All online Heroscapers sales and trades must be done through this "Sales and Trades" forum. No "trade talk" is permitted in other forums on this site. You are permitted to link to your trade list elsewhere on the site, but no negotiations or sales discussion may take place in the other forums of this site.

4) Permitted items. Your trade list must be primarily composed of items related to Heroscape or the wider area of tabletop gaming (card games, board games, miniatures games, etc).

5) Personal sales only. This forum is not your storefront. It is for personal sales/trades only.

6) Advertising your sale/trade/want list. You are allowed to create only one thread in the Sales and Trades forum and it must have the title of "USERNAME's DATE Tradelist" (e.g., "Xorlof's 1/22/12 Tradelist"). Put the items you have for sale, trade, or want to buy in the top post of that thread and edit it as your list changes. If there is space after the date in the title, you may put additional text. (e.g., "Xorlof's 1/22/12 Tradelist - NEW ITEMS ADDED"). Other members use this thread to ask questions or generally discuss your sale. When writing the date in your thread title, please use U.S. style dates: month/day/year.

7) Feedback. After a successful or botched trade, you are strongly encouraged to post in the other party's thread with your feedback on the sale. Others rely on this feedback to judge the relative reliability of potential trading partners. All feedback provided must be factual and should describe the sale, not the other person.
"I had a great trade with Joe_Trader. No problems. Items arrived quickly."

"Joe_Trader never sent the cards for the figures I purchased from him. It has been 2 weeks and he hasn't responded to PMs asking to fix this problem."
not
"Joe_Trader is a great guy."

"Joe_Trader is a jerk and just rips people off."
The feedback can be as detailed or short as you wish, but stick to the facts of the trade.

Text formatting in the colors of RED and GREEN in this trading forum are reserved for use in feedback posts. When posting feedback in a member's trade thread for a POSITIVE experience, users are encouraged to post in GREEN. Feedback of a NEGATIVE experience should be in RED. Here are some examples you can use: (highlight, copy, and paste the appropriate one into your message):
[color=green][b]POSITIVE FEEDBACK[/b][/color]
or
[color=red][b]NEGATIVE FEEDBACK[/b][/color]
8) Bumping your thread. You may "bump" your trade thread no sooner than two weeks after the last post in it. If you do bump your thread, you must edit the title of your trade thread with the date of the bump so that others know that your first post contents are current. (You can of course also edit the date at other times too).

9) Paypal gifts. If using PayPal for payments, sellers may not ask the buyers to send the money as a PayPal gift. Buyers are strongly cautioned against sending payments as "gifts" to anyone as part of a transaction that is not, actually, a gift.

10) Shipping. If the buyer requests the seller ship via a method that provides tracking numbers, the seller should honor that request, and should inform the buyer of the tracking number within 2 days after the item has shipped. Depending on the shipping company, obtaining a tracking number may be an additional expense to the seller, so the buyer should request this service prior the final price being determined.

11) Disputes. If there is a dispute over a trade, please go to the first post of the seller's thread and report the post. In the report, tell us exactly what was agreed to and what has happened since the trade was agreed to which has caused the dispute. We will do our best to help bring the dispute to an amicable conclusion, but what we're able to do can be limited.

12) Administrators' Discretion. These rules bind the online trading activity here at heroscapers.com. Traders should be aware, however, that the administrators may change these rules or make exceptions completely within their own discretion.

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Sample Trading Procedure

What follows is a sample procedure for doing sales that generally provides for smooth transactions and uses PayPal to provide both the buyer and seller with some protections. You do not have to follow this exact procedure, provided you are otherwise following the rules above and conducting yourself in an ethical manner.

1) Buyer researches seller's previous trade history, if any, by reading through the seller's thread for feedback.

2) Buyer and seller negotiate on a price for items. During the negotiation the seller should provide a clear description of any deficiencies in the condition of the items and is also clear about what is and is not included with the sale. ("All of my figures show signs of use, including things like bent spears. Nothing is outright broken. Cards are included and in good condition.")

3) Buyer should get a clear date when an item will be shipped and via what method before any money changes hands.

4) In a timely manner, buyer pays using PayPal and sends the money as a "Goods" purchase (not a "Gift"). For extra protection, the buyer can specify a credit card (not debit card, or checking account) as the source of the funds. You must use a Goods purchase to be eligible for PayPal's Buyer Protection. When sending the money, be sure to specify a shipping address, verified with PayPal, so the buyer knows exactly where it should be shipped. It is also a good idea to provide the general details of the transaction in the PayPal comment box (what you're buying, what condition it is in, and when the buyer said it will be shipped).

5) After receiving the funds, the buyer ships the item via a shipper that provides a tracking number. Be sure to factor this in when determining how much the buyer should pay you for shipping! (The U.S. Postal Service calls this a delivery confirmation number and is free for Priority Mail shipments entered online, but can cost $1 or so to add otherwise). To use PayPal's Seller Protection, you should ship within 7 days and make sure that they buyer provided a VERIFIED shipping address. If the payment is over $250, you should also ship requiring a signature at delivery.

6) In the event a seller does not ship an item in a timely fashion or the items is significantly different than described, the buyer should open a claim with PayPal. The seller is given a period of time to resolve the claim, shipping the item (or providing the evidence that they did in fact previously ship the item) and PayPal helps mediate any disputes.

There is nothing more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. --MLK

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Old February 11th, 2013, 07:30 AM
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Re: READ THIS FIRST - Rules for using the trading forum!

Wonderful. Thank you all so much for setting this up; I believe it will be a great help to everyone who's still trying to fill in holes in their collections and/or find homes for their extras.

Good traders: itsbuzzi, anagrams_are_just_grams, deathsride, gibby64, FlamingSword, stryker280, heroscaper2010,
Sureno214, ImAMerc12176, Ascendant, Follitron, Ninja Status & more on my trade list
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Old February 11th, 2013, 07:38 AM
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Can I at least call mine a Sell list seeing as I don't want or need any more HeroScape or anything else but money for that matter?
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Old February 11th, 2013, 08:02 AM
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to Xorlof and everyone else involved in the revision of the trading forum!

Awesome job!
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Re: READ THIS FIRST - Rules for using the trading forum!

Do I like it?

Absolutely.

It's just that if you are only selling HeroScape, the title should be able to let people know ahead of time.
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This is exactly what we've needed!

Looking for a way to get casual players involved in Heroscape? Do your opponents lack the interest or knowledge to build/draft their own armies? If so, check out Project 500!
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Can I at least call mine a Sell list seeing as I don't want or need any more HeroScape or anything else but money for that matter?
We use "trading" in the generic sense (e.g., this thread is called "Rules for using the trading forum"). In this case, you're trading 'scape for money. Just make that clear in your thread and you should be OK.

That said, if you find that people are getting confused by your thread and offering to trade 'scape for 'scape, ignoring your prices, we want to hear that feedback and may consider changes.

There is nothing more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. --MLK
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Ok, that's fine.
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Re: READ THIS FIRST - Rules for using the trading forum!

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to Xorlof and everyone else involved in the revision of the trading forum!

Awesome job!
Yes, there are lots of people to thank beyond the admins. You'll find a lot of them in happyjosiah's thread including happyjosiah, Nobody, bacchus, and Just_a_Bill (whose proposal there looks nothing--I repeat--nothing like what we've deployed ). This list is just off the top-of-my head and not all-inclusive.

Dad_Scaper has been very helpful behind-the-scenes with the rules, and has volunteered to mod here.

Thanks guys!

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to Xorlof and everyone else involved in the revision of the trading forum!

Awesome job!
Yes, there are lots of people to thank beyond the admins. You'll find a lot of them in happyjosiah's thread including happyjosiah, Nobody, bacchus, and Just_a_Bill (whose proposal there looks nothing--I repeat--nothing like what we've deployed ). This list is just off the top-of-my head and not all-inclusive.

Dad_Scaper has been very helpful behind-the-scenes with the rules, and has volunteered to mod here.

Thanks guys!

Happyjosiah, Just_a_Bill, bacchus, Nobody, Dad_scaper, and Xorlof are awesome guys!
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to Xorlof and everyone else involved in the revision of the trading forum!

Awesome job!
Yes, there are lots of people to thank beyond the admins. You'll find a lot of them in happyjosiah's thread including happyjosiah, Nobody, bacchus, and Just_a_Bill (whose proposal there looks nothing--I repeat--nothing like what we've deployed ). This list is just off the top-of-my head and not all-inclusive.

Dad_Scaper has been very helpful behind-the-scenes with the rules, and has volunteered to mod here.

Thanks guys!

Happyjosiah, Just_a_Bill, bacchus, Nobody, Dad_scaper, and Xorlof are awesome guys!
As are anyone else not mentioned in the not all-inclusive list.

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