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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

I agree YK.

How does this look for clarifications?

-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q - If Luke Cage rolls only one shield and it is removed by Face of Fear, does Impenetrable Skin still activate?
    A - Yes. Impenetrable Skin activates as long as a shield "is rolled".
  • Q - If Robin(100) rolls only one shield and it is removed by Face of Fear, does Acrobatic Maneuver still activate?
    A - No, for one shield blocking all damage. Yes, for moving one space because one shield was 'rolled', however Judge Fear can still prevent Robin from moving with Mantrap. _________________________________________________________________

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How does this look for clarifications?

-Rulings and Clarifications-
  • Q - If Luke Cage rolls only one shield and it is removed by Face of Fear, does Impenetrable Skin still activate?
    A - Yes. Impenetrable Skin activates as long as a shield "is rolled".
  • Q - If Robin(100) rolls only one shield and it is removed by Face of Fear, does Acrobatic Maneuver still activate?
    A - No, for one shield blocking all damage. Yes, for moving one space because one shield was 'rolled', however Judge Fear can still prevent Robin from moving with Mantrap. _________________________________________________________________
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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

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  • Q - If Luke Cage rolls only one shield and it is removed by Face of Fear, does Impenetrable Skin still activate?
    A - Yes. Impenetrable Skin activates as long as a shield "is rolled".
  • Q - If Robin(100)rolls only one shield and it is removed by Face of Fear, does Acrobatic Maneuver still activate?
    A - No, for one shield blocking all damage.
These are in contradiction of each other. Both powers are based on at least one shield being rolled, why would they have different interactions?

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

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  • Q - If Luke Cage rolls only one shield and it is removed by Face of Fear, does Impenetrable Skin still activate?
    A - Yes. Impenetrable Skin activates as long as a shield "is rolled".
  • Q - If Robin(100)rolls only one shield and it is removed by Face of Fear, does Acrobatic Maneuver still activate?
    A - No, for one shield blocking all damage.
These are in contradiction of each other. Both powers are based on at least one shield being rolled, why would they have different interactions?
Because they don't have the exact same trigger. It was already ruled with Falcon that any power that says "if at least 1 skull is rolled" triggers because the skull was rolled, regardless of the fact that it was later subtracted. This then applies to any power that says "if at least 1 shield is rolled" in Fear's case (this covers Luke). However, where it gets weird is defensive powers that say "one shield will block all damage". It was discussed, and most people agreed, that it seemed to make sense that these powers wouldn't trigger due to the fact that, after Fear's power is used, there aren't any shields, meaning it wouldn't trigger.

It's messy, but that's what most people seemed to think made sense. Personally, I'm not a fan of the Falcon ruling, and would prefer to see powers like this (and Falcon's) prevent both "if at least 1 shield/skull is rolled" and "1 shield will block all damage" powers.

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

Just sent this to Fret:

Here is his card. We do have some specific request for these tests. Please optimize this teammates and the figures he faces off against in order to make sure his powers are all useful in the game.

Some examples:

1. Mantrap needs some opponents that do not have SS on the board and want to move. This is key so don't throw him up against all or almost all SS figures or the tests won't tell us much.

2. Figures that can dodge by rolling blanks or shields (Flash/HQ/Speedball/Robin/etc.) don't like rolling 1 fewer defense die, so throw one of them in the opponents army and try to use Fear to target them.

NAME = JUDGE FEAR

SPECIES = UNDEAD
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = DARK JUDGE
PERSONALITY = FEARLESS
SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5
MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
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DEFENSE = 5

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Start the game with two gray Mantrap Markers on this card. When an opponent's small or medium Unique Hero within 2 clear sight spaces of Judge Fear that does not have the Super Strength special power begins to move, you may place a Mantrap Marker from this card onto the chosen Hero's card. A figure other than Judge Fear with a Mantrap Marker on its card cannot move or target a non-adjacent figure for an attack. If a figure other than Judge Fear with a Mantrap Marker on its card receives one or more wounds, remove all Mantrap Markers from that card.

FACE OF FEAR
If only one figure is engaged to Judge Fear, when that figure rolls defense dice, you may subtract 1 shield from whatever is rolled. Judge Dredd and figures with the Fearless or Insane personalities are not affected by Face of Fear.

DIMENSIONAL TELEPORT

At the end of each round, if Judge Fear is on the battlefield and there are two or fewer Wound Markers on this card, you may place Judge Fear on any empty space on the battlefield. When Judge Fear is moved by Dimensional Teleport, he may not be placed adjacent to an opponent's figure and will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

He doesn't do that much against Flash, he subtracts shields after they are rolled, not defense dice.


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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

I'll send him a PM making a correction. Those of you who were looking for more tests vs. specific units should chime in what you are looking for before he starts his tests or we will be waiting for another PT to sign up.
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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

Fret asked about the Robin shield rolled situation so I sent him the FAQ from above. He also asked this question:

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Another question: About Mantrap, it says t "remove" the marker, but it does not state where to put it. Is it removed from the game? Meaning he can only perform this action twice a game?
I let him know it was a two time use only power.
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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

Unless otherwise specified, yes it is removed from the game.
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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

Thanks for picking up my slack YK. Work and weather has knocked me out of loop for a bit.
Is the FAQ good then? It sounds like it works. If anyone has a suggestion to word it better let me know.

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

Tests from fret.
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C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM


NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Judge Fear

Army Test

Map:Arctic Redoubt

Units:Black Canary (190), Green Arrow (150), Judge Fear (135), Magneto(310), Robin (120), Speedy (90) vs Angel (90), Beast (170), Cyclops (190), IceMan (150), Jean Grey (180), Professor X (220)

Powers Used:

Mantrap: 1 time on Angel
Face of Fear: 0 times
Dimensional Teleport: 2 times

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Army Test

Map:Arctic Redoubt

Units:Gentleman Ghost (165), Judge Death (295), Judge Fear (135) vs. Alfred Pennyworth (60), Batman (200), Batman (220), Robin (120)

Powers Used:

Mantrap: 0 Times, but it worth noting that both Batmans stayed on spaces that were a distinct disadvantage instead of moving to prevent getting a Mantrap marker
Face of Fear: 4 times
Dimensional Teleport: 3 times

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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Powers are limited as his is Attack, but he is worth the 135 cost. He currently has little synergy, but I could easily see him draftable at this point cost.

GENERAL THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT: Excellent design with lots of potential, but as his powers are very limited they hard to execute. It is difficult to place him in such a position to activate either Mantrap or Face Fear without putting him in great risk, but this helps keeping him in point cost balance.

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Re: The Book of Judge Fear(Public Playtesting)

Thoughts anyone?

I still think he is 135 material.

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