The Book of Ch'od

[Viegon]

You know I'm definitely behind this design. I agree with trying to get his cost in at 215.

For a comparison, Rhino (who is 220) is actually much closer. They both have 6 life, 5 defense, and Tough, putting their survivability on exactly the same level. Ch'od has better offense (1 more move and attack than Rhino) and Drop Team in comparison to Rhino's Rhino Charge and Weak Minded. I think the current SP would probably come in at about 230. I'd say drop his life to 5 and also his move to 5 (I don't remember him being particularly fast and with Drop Team he won't even need the extra move), and try him at 215.

[TrollBrute]

On the other hand, if he came in at 235, the classic Starjammers (Ch'od, Corsair, Hepzibah, and Raza) would be 850. It's not as commonly played a number as 1000, but it makes a nice team and is probably better as an army than all five of them, given that one will always get left behind in the SZ.

[Yodaking]

Just saw this thread. I like the sound of 215 and a 1000 point starjammers army. Just because he can drop in with 3 other Pirates, doesn't mean he has to. He could be held back with just 1 or 2 other pirates for a mid game drop in once your other pirates start getting into trouble.

[Zettian Juggernaut]

Okay, I'll update the SP with this once the breathing period is up later today.

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 1
ATTACK = 6
DEFENSE = 5

POINTS = 215

[IAmBatman]

Looks good!

[Zettian Juggernaut]

SP updated, with that I propose we move to Initial Playtesting.

VOTES:
IAmBatman - Yea
@johnny139 -
Karat - Yea
SirGalahad - Yea
TrollBrute - Yea
Viegon - Yea

And I'll see what CRB guys have to say while I'm at it, @dok , @Dysole , @weebaer , @Soundwarp SG-1 .

[IAmBatman]

yea pending a checklist by the CRB.

Probably wouldn't hurt to at least eyeball this one too:

Spoiler Alert!

1. Check if we are recycling a unit name or special power name.
2. What happens when the powers are negated (Zatanna, etc.)?
3. Should the powers affect destructible objects, undead, constructs, etc?
4. Check if the powers work correctly in a mirror match or in a mutiplayer game.
5. Do the powers allow turn stacking?
6. Are any powers expected to work after all figures have been destroyed? If so, is that clearly worded?
7. Do any powers place figures on this card? If so, how does it interact with other place-on-card powers (Bug Drop, Frenchie’s Air Drop, Alternate Realities, Penance Stare 19, Helicarrier Drop Team, Timestream Reinforcements)?
8. Does a power trigger off of an Order Marker being revealed on another Army Card? If so, is the power expected to trigger if all figures associated with that Army Card have been destroyed? If so, does this allow turn stacking, overpowered passive movement abilities, or unclear power timing?
9. Is it clear which powers are mandatory and which are optional?
10. Does any power's name or wording unintentionally prohibit the power's reusability?
11. Are there any competitive concerns brought up by the CRB that need to be addressed in testing?

Movement Power Checklist:

1. Does it allow leaving engagement attacks?
2. How does it interact with Engagement Strike?
3. How does it interact with Stuck/Rubber Wrap?
4. Is there any way the figure can be forced to end its movement on an illegal space?
5. Is it a space-by-space move power, or a teleport-like place power? Is it clear in the power which one it is?
6. How does it interact with bonus movement powers, such as Telepathic Directive or Guarding the Globe?

Aura Power Checklist:

1. Is the aura intended to affect the figure with the aura? Is this clear?
2. If one member of a squad is within the aura, are the other squad members unintentionally affected?

Attack Targeting Triggered Powers:

1. Is it intended to only work with normal attacks? If so, does it specify this? Is it intended to work only with melee attacks? If so, does it specify this?
2. Does it affect special attacks? Take careful note of special attacks that do not use targeting like Optic Blast Special Attack or Canary Cry Special Attack.
3. What happens if the attacker changes targets?

Receiving Wounds Triggered Powers:

1. How does it interact with normal attacks?
2. How does it interact with special attacks?
3. How does it interact with leaving engagement attacks?
4. How does it interact with falling damage?
5. How does it interact with lava field damage?
6. How does it interact with the Glyphs that cause wounds?
7. How does it interact with Engagement Strike/Auto Chain Gun?
8. How does it interact with auto-wounding powers that choose the target?
9. How does it interact with Knockback?
10. How does it interact with Destructible Objects?

Uncommon Card Checklist:

Do multiple copies of the Uncommon have unintended interactions? Note that each card represents a distinct copy of each power, unlike Commons.

Special Attack Checklist:

If the unit is a squad, can some of the squad members use the special attack while others attack normally? Is it clear?

[Viegon]

Yea

[Zettian Juggernaut]

Originally Posted by IAmBatman

Probably wouldn't hurt to at least eyeball this one too:

Spoiler Alert!

1. Check if we are recycling a unit name or special power name.
2. What happens when the powers are negated (Zatanna, etc.)?
3. Should the powers affect destructible objects, undead, constructs, etc?
4. Check if the powers work correctly in a mirror match or in a mutiplayer game.
5. Do the powers allow turn stacking?
6. Are any powers expected to work after all figures have been destroyed? If so, is that clearly worded?
7. Do any powers place figures on this card? If so, how does it interact with other place-on-card powers (Bug Drop, Frenchie’s Air Drop, Alternate Realities, Penance Stare 19, Helicarrier Drop Team, Timestream Reinforcements)?
8. Does a power trigger off of an Order Marker being revealed on another Army Card? If so, is the power expected to trigger if all figures associated with that Army Card have been destroyed? If so, does this allow turn stacking, overpowered passive movement abilities, or unclear power timing?
9. Is it clear which powers are mandatory and which are optional?
10. Does any power's name or wording unintentionally prohibit the power's reusability?
11. Are there any competitive concerns brought up by the CRB that need to be addressed in testing?

Movement Power Checklist:

1. Does it allow leaving engagement attacks?
2. How does it interact with Engagement Strike?
3. How does it interact with Stuck/Rubber Wrap?
4. Is there any way the figure can be forced to end its movement on an illegal space?
5. Is it a space-by-space move power, or a teleport-like place power? Is it clear in the power which one it is?
6. How does it interact with bonus movement powers, such as Telepathic Directive or Guarding the Globe?

Aura Power Checklist:

1. Is the aura intended to affect the figure with the aura? Is this clear?
2. If one member of a squad is within the aura, are the other squad members unintentionally affected?

Attack Targeting Triggered Powers:

1. Is it intended to only work with normal attacks? If so, does it specify this? Is it intended to work only with melee attacks? If so, does it specify this?
2. Does it affect special attacks? Take careful note of special attacks that do not use targeting like Optic Blast Special Attack or Canary Cry Special Attack.
3. What happens if the attacker changes targets?

Receiving Wounds Triggered Powers:

1. How does it interact with normal attacks?
2. How does it interact with special attacks?
3. How does it interact with leaving engagement attacks?
4. How does it interact with falling damage?
5. How does it interact with lava field damage?
6. How does it interact with the Glyphs that cause wounds?
7. How does it interact with Engagement Strike/Auto Chain Gun?
8. How does it interact with auto-wounding powers that choose the target?
9. How does it interact with Knockback?
10. How does it interact with Destructible Objects?

Uncommon Card Checklist:

Do multiple copies of the Uncommon have unintended interactions? Note that each card represents a distinct copy of each power, unlike Commons.

Special Attack Checklist:

If the unit is a squad, can some of the squad members use the special attack while others attack normally? Is it clear?

Just did and didn't see anything.

[dok]

Three thumbs up.

[SirGalahad]

yea

[TrollBrute]

Yea