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Old March 24th, 2019, 09:56 PM
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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

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So actually all figs on the list (asterisk or not), are approved figures for a tournament as long as the tournament director(s) say C3V allowed? So I guess you could say that SoV figs are a subset within the heading of the C3V?
The red asterisk is a holdover from the old days. We keep it, but I've never heard of a tournament that allows one but not the other. I urge you, and all TDs out there, to treat them the same.

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Old March 24th, 2019, 11:12 PM
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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

Thanks for clearing this up. We were under the impression that SOV and C3V were not the same. I thought SOV were just units that were being playtested and approved to eventually become C3V.

Btw, I'm pretty new to the world of C3V.

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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

Welcome!

C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.


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Old March 26th, 2019, 06:35 PM
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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

Are these units planned for a future C3V unit? I have them left over from some minis-collection that I purchased for some other C3V units.



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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

Those are from the Ram Army Box, but the C3V has previously announced that we are not developing anything with those figures.
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Old March 27th, 2019, 12:31 AM
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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

And, to help further clarify the C3V/SoV differences (as thorough as Leaf-It's explanation was):

SoV was started to allow any individual to submit one of their own designs to be thoroughly tested and vetted to be a good addition to HS and un-broken within the greater HS canon. The testing/discussions/etc. mostly happened here (HSers) on open forums.

I was not involved in the C3V genesis, but it is my understanding that it was originally started to carry on the same kind of releases that Hasbro/WotC had used to release new 'Waves'. Hasbro/WotC's method was to have each 'Wave' consist of four 'Expansion packs' of units (usually one pack of heroes and three packs of squads) or one Large Expansion (usually consisting of several Heroes or a new Terrain type with units specific to that terrain). As such, C3V did most of their testing/discussions/etc. cryptically (hidden from view) and then released the 'packs' together(-ish) as a new "Wave".

Both SoV & C3V have evolved, and with personnel overlap, have grown somewhat interconnected.

But the basic ideas are still there - if you want one of your customs to be adopted, submit it to SoV. If you love the "Wow me with a new release!", wait for the next C3V wave.

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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

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Those are from the Ram Army Box, but the C3V has previously announced that we are not developing anything with those figures.

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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

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And, to help further clarify the C3V/SoV diffeerences (as thorough as Leaf-It's explanation was):

SoV was started to allow any individual to submit one of their own designs to be thoroughly tested and vetted to be a good addition to HS and un-broken within the greater HS canon. The testing/discussions/etc. mostly happened here (HSers) on open forums.

I was not involved in the C3V genesis, but it is my understanding that it was originally started to carry on the same kind of releases that Hasbro/WotC had used to release new 'Waves'. Hasbro/WotC's method was to have each 'Wave' consist of four 'Expansion packs' of units (usually one pack of heroes and three packs of squads) or one Large Expansion (usually consisting of several Heroes or a new Terrain type with units specific to that terrain). As such, C3V did most of their testing/discussions/etc. cryptically (hidden from view) and then released the 'packs' together(-ish) as a new "Wave".

Both SoV & C3V have evolved, and with personnel overlap, have grown somewhat interconnected.

But the basic ideas are still there - if you want one of your customs to be adopted, submit it to SoV. If you love the "Wow me with a new release!", wait for the next C3V wave.

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Thanks for the further explanation! I was dead set on not allowing SOV in our tournaments. As I stated earlier, I was always under the impression they were not playtested by a panel of judges and were only user submissions waiting to be tested/approved.

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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

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And, to help further clarify the C3V/SoV diffeerences (as thorough as Leaf-It's explanation was):

SoV was started to allow any individual to submit one of their own designs to be thoroughly tested and vetted to be a good addition to HS and un-broken within the greater HS canon. The testing/discussions/etc. mostly happened here (HSers) on open forums.

I was not involved in the C3V genesis, but it is my understanding that it was originally started to carry on the same kind of releases that Hasbro/WotC had used to release new 'Waves'. Hasbro/WotC's method was to have each 'Wave' consist of four 'Expansion packs' of units (usually one pack of heroes and three packs of squads) or one Large Expansion (usually consisting of several Heroes or a new Terrain type with units specific to that terrain). As such, C3V did most of their testing/discussions/etc. cryptically (hidden from view) and then released the 'packs' together(-ish) as a new "Wave".

Both SoV & C3V have evolved, and with personnel overlap, have grown somewhat interconnected.

But the basic ideas are still there - if you want one of your customs to be adopted, submit it to SoV. If you love the "Wow me with a new release!", wait for the next C3V wave.

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Thanks for the further explanation! I was dead set on not allowing SOV in our tournaments. As I stated earlier, I was always under the impression they were not playtested by a panel of judges and were only user submissions waiting to be tested/approved.
That would be a huge mistake. Some C3V designs were literally made specifically to work with certain SoV designs, and vice-versa. I'm glad these questions were asked so that this was avoided.

As a rule, Nothing has an official "Book Of" thread inside the C3V/SoV forum unless it is VC Tournament approved.
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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

So when this project first started I was all in and buying everything as it was announced. Unfortunately I ran into some financial struggles that led me to sell off all the C3V/SoV figures I had. Now I want to get back in and many of the figures are simply not available. Is there a thread that lists any official proxys for figures you can no longer buy?
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Re: C3V/SoV Question Dump

@Tmac2200 and anyone else that wants proxies for C3V/SoV: see C3V & SoV Alternate Figures, although it probably needs some more figures added. Also note my Heroscape C3V & SoV spreadsheet has some alternate figures that are the same or almost the same sculpt, but I need to add some more as well.

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