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Old April 25th, 2015, 11:08 PM
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Hmm, to review the Pendant of Fortune.

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I don't think he looks like a Marro, but luckily nobody cares what I think. I could live with the Wo-Sa-Ga/Grok explanation.

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I would want an explanation for how he is a hivelord. How does he eat those things quick enough to heal without getting targeted and killed in battle? One of them is like a whole meal for him, so how does he eat more than one to keep healing wounds without exploding his gut? Maybe he just stabs them with his tail and slurps out their nutritious insides. Also why so short? Wo-sa-ga/Tor-kul-na/Su-bak-na huge 10/11/12, then Kon-tar-na is large 6. Did he miss out on some growth hormones or something? I don't know, to me, him being a hivelord does not make sense. It feels like the theme is forced on the figure to fit the designs gameplay. Its a cool custom don't get me wrong, but the figure seems wrong.

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All my concerns (well-founded or otherwise) have been answered. to review the Pendant of Fortune
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I don't think he looks like a Marro, but luckily nobody cares what I think. I could live with the Wo-Sa-Ga/Grok explanation.

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I would want an explanation for how he is a hivelord. How does he eat those things quick enough to heal without getting targeted and killed in battle? One of them is like a whole meal for him, so how does he eat more than one to keep healing wounds without exploding his gut? Maybe he just stabs them with his tail and slurps out their nutritious insides. Also why so short? Wo-sa-ga/Tor-kul-na/Su-bak-na huge 10/11/12, then Kon-tar-na is large 6. Did he miss out on some growth hormones or something? I don't know, to me, him being a hivelord does not make sense. It feels like the theme is forced on the figure to fit the designs gameplay. Its a cool custom don't get me wrong, but the figure seems wrong.
Actually Su-Bak-Na and Tor-Kul-Na are regular sized Marro. The mounts aren't the hivelords.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

The Pendant of Fortune has received 5 Yea votes to review (Soundwarp SG-1, Scytale, capsocrates, Son of Arathorn, and superfrog) and moves forward in the process.
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Yaaay. Now how to test it...

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I don't think he looks like a Marro, but luckily nobody cares what I think. I could live with the Wo-Sa-Ga/Grok explanation.

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I would want an explanation for how he is a hivelord. How does he eat those things quick enough to heal without getting targeted and killed in battle? One of them is like a whole meal for him, so how does he eat more than one to keep healing wounds without exploding his gut? Maybe he just stabs them with his tail and slurps out their nutritious insides. Also why so short? Wo-sa-ga/Tor-kul-na/Su-bak-na huge 10/11/12, then Kon-tar-na is large 6. Did he miss out on some growth hormones or something? I don't know, to me, him being a hivelord does not make sense. It feels like the theme is forced on the figure to fit the designs gameplay. Its a cool custom don't get me wrong, but the figure seems wrong.
Actually Su-Bak-Na and Tor-Kul-Na are regular sized Marro. The mounts aren't the hivelords.
While that is true I feel part of the reason they are hivelords is because they are bred to work with the mounts. To me, in the case of TKN and SBN, its the rider and monster together that make the unit that is the hivelord.

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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Wo Sa Ga is a hive lord with no mount.

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Wo Sa Ga is a hive lord with no mount.
Or is she a hivelord with no rider?

As far as the story questions about how this proposed figure would eat Nagrubs, what constitutes a hivelord, etc., in Heroscape the story-to-gameplay lines are pretty blurred when it comes to composite figures. Some special powers (and attributes) are about the rider, some are about the mount, and others are uncertain.
Grimnak
• Chomp — mount
• Orc Warrior Enhancement — both (according to bio)
Grok Riders
• Marro Warlord Bonding — rider (likely)
• Mark of the Warlord — rider (likely)
• Grok Training — mount
Me-Burq-Sa
• Paralyzing Stare — rider
Mok
• Dwarven Gunners — mount
• Gunner Casualties — rider(s)
• Gunner Special Attack — both
Nerak the Glacian Swog Rider
• Disengage — rider (likely)
• Orc Defensive Aura — could be either or both
• Snow Strength — mount
Su-Bak-Na
• Hive Supremacy — rider
• Flying — mount
Swog Rider
• Disengage — rider (likely)
• Orc Archer Enhancement — could be either or both
Templar Cavalry
• Galloping Charge — mount
• Dismiss the Rabble — could be either or both
• Righteous Smite — rider
Tor-Kul-Na
• Trample Stomp — mount
Tornak
• Disengage — rider (likely)
• Orc Warrior Enhancement — could be either or both
Ulginesh
• Mind Link — rider
• Flying — mount
Sir Dupuis
• Knight's Courage — rider
• Tactical Disengagement — could be either or both
• Chalice of Fortitude — rider
I used to thoughtlessly just kind of assume that Tor-Kul-Na's "monster" ate the Nagrub and this removed a wound marker because the Life number on the unit was based on both figures in the composite. This "eat it whole" assumption is not a problem for Wo-Sa-Ga, but it doesn't really make sense for Su-Bak-Na. Chances are, that skeletal mount doesn't even eat at all, and eating wouldn't make it healthier.

So it's just as plausible, if not more likely, that the actual Marro hivelords themselves are sort of vampiric, sucking out a 'grub's blood, soul, spirit, life force, whatever without physically consuming the bulk of its body.

You could theoretically have a Gniddish hivelord and it would still be able to heal a wound by absorbing/extracting whatever it needs from a Nagrub that's larger than itself. Size does not have to be a limiting factor.


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Re: Soldiers of Valhalla - nominations and discussion

Very effective presentation, JAB.

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