The Book of Eradicator

[Griffin]

Updated.

[Spidey'tilIDie]

I'm with A3N on this. If anything I think a simple question could be sent to the playtesters asking, "IF the OM restriction were removed from Eradicator's card would your assessment of his cost stand?" Again, like A3N, I certainly respect both Griff 's and Bat's opinions, but I can't justify them speaking for others here. So without this I will also have to Abstain.

[IAmBatman]

Originally Posted by Griffin

You guys are being uptight.

Eradicator was tested at 280.

I passed him at 280.

Margloth passed him at 280.

Bats passed him at 280 if the Order Marker restriction was gone.

Red Eye passed him at 300.


I only proposed the cost just under 280 at 270 to help account for Bats issues with the Order Marker aspect.


I propose we remove the Order Marker restriction on the SA and change his point cost to 280.

Down to Sir G or time.

[SirGalahad]

yea, but we need to be careful not to have too many changes after playtesting unless we run additional tests.

[Griffin]

I agree.

[IAmBatman]

For sure. I think if we didn't have two heroes confident in this direction and if it weren't a relatively minor change, I wouldn't have supported it without further testing.
As is, though, the change would have made no difference on any of the tests that were done, since no one tested him with Hush or Red Skull.

[SirGalahad]

Originally Posted by Griffin

SOLAR RADIATION SPECIAL ATTACK
Range 3. Attack 3 + Special.
After moving and before attacking with this special attack, you may place any number of Wound Markers on this card. For each placed Wound Marker, add 1 to the attack number of this special attack for the rest of this turn. After attacking with this special attack, Eradicator may attack one additional time. Each time a Kryptonian figure is attacked with this special attack, the most wounds it can take from this special attack is one.

SOLAR TRANSFERENCE
After taking a turn with Eradicator, if Eradicator received any wounds this turn, each Kryptonian figure within 3 clear sight spaces of Eradicator may remove one Wound Marker from its Army Card.

• breakes up the "for" prepositional phrases
• puts the "if" before the result

Potential fly in the ointment!

If I take temporary control of my opponent's Eradicator, I can move him within 3 spaces of my Kryptonian(s), put enough Wound Markers on his card to destroy him, then remove 1 Wound Marker from each of my Kryptonians (not that destroying my opponent's 280-point figure wouldn't be enough satisfaction). At least if I fly him into lava, he's got a chance to survive.

Is this the intent?

[IAmBatman]

hmm ... that might have been a reason to keep the Order Marker restriction on there ...

[Griffin]

Yep!!! That was why I had the Order Marker restriction. I put it on the playtest sheet even when I did the second army test.

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
One the second Army Test I realized that if this guy is mind controlled he can be forced to destroy himself with his own special attack. Puppet Master or anyone else taking away 280 points just like that is a bit too much, so I tied the placing of wounds on his card with the special attack to having to reveal an order on his card first. So that if he does hurt himself, it is always "HIS" intention under your control.

[tcglkn]

Sounds like that would put him down in cost rather than bring him up. I'm gonna change my vote to Nay.

[IAmBatman]

Agreed. Can we just revert back to the 270 points with the OM restriction?

[Griffin]

Well the proposal has passed. But I will put up a new one after we discuss things a bit.

Two testers agreed with 280, one tester agreed with 270, and one tester agreed with 300.

IMO, (I was the Initial tester here), 270 is doable, but 280 felt more appropriate. I am not sure why we would logically go with Bats' suggested point cost, when he is alone in his estimation. The average from all 4 of our testers is 282.5 - something to think about anyways.