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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

I'd prefer not to go there. It breaks ground we haven't before and that could lead to potentially messy situations. I don't have an issue with that power only working if her Beloved is another figure you control.

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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

If you can think of just one potentially messy situation, I'd be more prone to agree with you.

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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

It's the potentially messy situations I don't think of that always get me in trouble.

I realize that's a sentiment that can be applied broadly, but in this case we'd really be pushing new ground (new ground I hadn't intended to push with this design).

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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

I can't think of any messiness off the top of my head, but it could conflict with any other "immediately after revealing an OM" powers and for that reason, I'm against it. It may not conflict right now, but it could seriously limit potential powers in the future. I'd hate for this single power to restrict future designs or create messy situations.

It would also make an opponent's figure the most likely choice for her Beloved, because that interruption of your opponent's turn would probably be more powerful than regular bonding.

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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

Good points all around. Unless there's a sudden change for significant support for it triggering on an opponent's turn (which I'm definitely not seeing right now), I plan to go ahead with what's in the SP.

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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

Thanks for the feedback! If she's coming in too strong, I'll probably drop her attack by one.

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Looks interesting. The strongest play is probably to use somebody who either holds you in engagement (e.g. Blob) or somebody who can only be attacked in engagement (e.g. Martian Manhunter) as the Beloved. Then try to get lots of double attacks of 7 or 8 with Jealous passion. Might be a hair underpriced, but at 4 life it's probably OK.

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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

C3G INITIAL PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (STAR SAPPHIRE (CAROL FERRIS))

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS


- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
PASS

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS

Heavy Hitter or Mid-Level Hero Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No?
Yes?
- What should be the unit's point value? 360+
- Give a brief overview. Even without being able to burn her markers, Star Sapphire has some nasty stats and rolled well. I'm going to bump her base attack down to 1 and thus her overall attack down to 6 and try her at 350 in the remaining tests.
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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No?
Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 330?
- Give a brief overview. Star Sapphire is holding her own until a big whiff against a 3 skull attack.
Map: Custom
Units: Star Sapphire (350) vs. SHIELD Agents x3 (330)
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Squad Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No?
Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 340
- Give a brief overview. Star Sapphire held up better here, but still whiffed on defense eventually to take her last two wounds.
Map: Custom
Units: Star Sapphire (350) vs. Hand Ninja x4 (340)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No?
Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? ??
- Give a brief overview. Superman dominated this gave. Star Sapphire attacked him over and over, as did Green Lantern, but neither could make a dent.
Map: Custom
Units: Star Sapphire (340), Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) (350) (690) vs. Superman II (450), Flash (250) (700)
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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No?
Yes.
- What should be the unit's point value? 320?
- Give a brief overview. Star Sapphire chooses Wolverine as her Beloved here. But nasty rolling by the Sinestro Corps and poor Order Marker management on Star Sapphire's side resulted in Wolverine dying in Round 1 before he ever got to attack or Star Sapphire ever got to use her powers associated with him.
Map: Custom
Units: Star Sapphire (340), Wolverine (280), Storm (220), Oracle (110), Wasp (50) (1,000) vs. Sinestro (330), Arkillo (310), Sinestro Corps Soldier x2 (220), Manhunter x1 (140) (1,000)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No?
Yes
- What should be the unit's point value?
340 felt perfect.
- Give a brief overview.
Star Sapphire chooses Green Lantern as her Beloved here. She felt like she got the most out of her powers yet here, and the stars finally aligned. I think she'll be a bit tricky to use, but 340 feels good overall. Lots of fun using Blue, Green, and Violet together here!
Map:
Custom
Units:
Star Sapphire (340), Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) (350), Saint Walker (280), Green Construct Shield x2 (40) (1,010) vs. Mister Fantastic, Human Torch, Invisible Woman, Thing (1,000)
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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

Finally got this one done! I like her at 340 but I'm also dropping her base attack to 1.

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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

Sounds good to me. Pre-Yea!
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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

Pre-Yea at 340.

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Re: The Book of Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris) - Design

I propose we move to Playtesting at 340 points!

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