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Old May 17th, 2012, 06:03 PM
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Re: The Book of Sif - Playtesting

Well the first test definitely looked balanced. The second test was a bit of a blow out, but it sounds like Thor performed poorly - I wonder how much of it was the dice.

Certainly if tests like the second become a trend, we could look at dropping her 10-20 points, but I don't think we're at that point yet.

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Re: The Book of Sif - Playtesting

I understand you comment in the Theme section, and it was a tempting idea to make her work with them and have synergies, etc, but I think it is best to let the Warriors 3 be sort of their own army for now, and as we add more and more Asgardians, which we are doing, Odin will round the faction out so that players will be encouraged to make an all Asgardian army.

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NAME OF THE TEST UNIT (Sif)

- THEME TEST/
Pass, though I wish she worked with the Warriors 3.

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass. Though due to the nature of Champions I wouldn't recommend her in a squad heavy game (Champs just seems best in a heavy-hitter game).

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass.

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass
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Army Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 240.
- Give a brief overview. Sif did well this game. Her TP allowed Thor to get in an attack on the Hydra while they were bunched up in the starting zone. She was able to hold her own, but Thor really did fairly poorly on the defensive rolls. Her Fierce Devotion seems awfully situational, but overall she's more of a utility character I suppose.
Map: Grundy's Grave
Units: Thor+Sif vs Madame Hydra, Baron von Strucker and 4x Hydra Agents.
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Army Test
- Does it pass
, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 240
- Give a brief overview. This was a tough match. Cloak was rolling well for Dimension of Darkness, and with a Heavy-Hitter team that's just killer. I feel like Sif carried her own weight,she was able to distract Invincible for a while. But it was just a bad matchup overall, Herc is so weak against Invincible.
Map: Grundy's Grave
Units: Sif, Super Skrull (Xmen), Hercules vs Black Panther, Cloak, Dagger, Invincible
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Re: The Book of Sif - Playtesting

I propose we move to Final Editing at 240 points.
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Re: The Book of Sif - VOTE for Final Editing

Are you sure 240 points isn't too high Griff? Her team only won 1 of 6 army tests and some weren't too close. I know there were some crappy games with Thor on her team, but looking at your tests, her team didn't win either.

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Re: The Book of Sif - VOTE for Final Editing

I think a melee army and Unique Hero can have issues at times, and she is a ground pounder. With that said, her life is 6 and her defense is 6. Those are 300 pointish stats, and she can teleport. I got really good mileage out of her, and in the HH tests, 250 even felt good. But I'll compromise a bit go down to 230. Sound good?
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Re: The Book of Sif - VOTE for Final Editing

I was going to suggest 230 after reading all of that. Here's my yea for 230 in fact.

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Re: The Book of Sif - VOTE for Final Editing

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Re: The Book of Sif - VOTE for Final Editing

Yea for 230 (just so we're clear)

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Re: The Book of Sif - VOTE for Final Editing

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I think a melee army and Unique Hero can have issues at times, and she is a ground pounder. With that said, her life is 6 and her defense is 6. Those are 300 pointish stats, and she can teleport. I got really good mileage out of her, and in the HH tests, 250 even felt good. But I'll compromise a bit go down to 230. Sound good?
Wrecker is 230 points with 6 lives, 6 attack and 6 defense. He also has a ranged attack of 5 with Crowbar Throw, Crowbar Demolition and The Wrecking Crew 10 power, so I think she should be fine at 230.

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Re: The Book of Sif - VOTE for Final Editing

Sorry Hahma. I think I accidentally counted you as being voted. And you are right about Wrecker.
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