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Re: The Book of Emma Frost - Design Phase

We can go 3+ on the attack and see if that works ... Telepaths can travel in bunches, though, thanks to Prof X, Martian Manhunter, etc. I think 2+ might be safer ... but I could go 3+ if the range is reduced to 3.

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Re: The Book of Emma Frost - Design Phase

I'm against the auto-skull on the Diamond Form. In my experience it's far more defensive than offensive.
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Re: The Book of Emma Frost - Design Phase

Yeah, that's why I was on the fence with the suggestion ... just trying to think of a simple way to "oomph" the power ... but maybe lowering her normal defense helps enough.

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We can go 3+ on the attack and see if that works ... Telepaths can travel in bunches, though, thanks to Prof X, Martian Manhunter, etc. I think 2+ might be safer ... but I could go 3+ if the range is reduced to 3.
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Re: The Book of Emma Frost - Design Phase

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How about if the extra telepaths just need to be within clear sight?
This wouldn't matter, since per the third power, all figures you control are within clear sight of each other.

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Re: The Book of Emma Frost - Design Phase

Which is still different that requiring them to be adjacent.
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Re: The Book of Emma Frost - Design Phase

I like Emma Frost, Life 4, Range 1, Attack 4, Defense 3, with Diamond Form granting Super Strength, Mental Shield, and Max one wound. Can we cut the name of PIBSA? Its a mouthful. How about Psychic Overload SA? Finally, the last power allows your figures to see each other, not all figures. Perhaps we could just add "except for Special Attacks."

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Disabling her telepathic powers while in diamond form is a thematic must.
it's in the original design already, the stuff that's missing is the mental shield, which i assume will be very difficult and long text since it will be optional and the other attacks refer to the SA named "Mental Shield"
Mental Shield should not be optional in Diamond Form. It literally cuts her off from the telepathic world.

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Disabling her telepathic powers while in diamond form is a thematic must.
it's in the original design already, the stuff that's missing is the mental shield, which i assume will be very difficult and long text since it will be optional and the other attacks refer to the SA named "Mental Shield"
Mental Shield should not be optional in Diamond Form. It literally cuts her off from the telepathic world.
In that case we should restrict the Diamond Form to an auto shield and Mental Shield. Piling anything else in will be way too much.

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Re: The Book of Emma Frost - Design Phase

You could do a lot of piling on with Diamond Form:

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At the moment of the destruction of Genosha, Frost manifested a secondary mutation giving her the ability to transform her body into organic diamond.[10] In this form, Frost is translucent and retains mobility while being almost invulnerable, and able to support incredible amounts of weight, though different writers have shown varying accounts of her strength. Her diamond form was at least strong enough for her to tear out of bonds and, in a single punch, send Lady Mastermind soaring across a room and straight through a wall.[59]

Emma's diamond body is virtually tireless as she does not produce fatigue poisons and has no need for water nor food.[94] She is also numbed from emotion, pain and empathy, impervious to cold,[95] and resistant to heat in this form.[96][97][98] Despite this high level of invulnerability, her diamond form has a single molecular flaw, which if exploited – such as being shot with a diamond bullet – can cause her body to shatter.[10] Though the exact location of the flaw in her diamond body has not been stated outright, clues point to it being located in between her eyes.[99]

Frost's full range of abilities between her diamond state and regular form have been inconsistent;[94][100] however, later occurrences[101][102] depict that Frost cannot access her psychic powers in diamond form, explained by different writers as either a distinct genetic flaw[33] or suppression by her diamond form's adamantine luster.[103] Depictions have also stated that Emma has a degree of telepathic immunity while in diamond form, though the extent of this immunity has been portrayed inconsistently as well, ranging from total shielding from psychic invasion to vulnerability to psychic attack.[96][104] Her diamond form is also stated to emit low-level ultraviolet light, causing it to glow in darkness.[103]
It pretty much does everything. It's more a question of what we want to/can fit in the power.

I'd say, however, that I'd leave her attack at 4, given the strength she gets from Diamond Form.

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Re: The Book of Emma Frost - Design Phase

That's why i had attack 4 in the begining, i don't like it to change in diamond form except the Superstrength.
I do like to have mental shield added but i don't think it could work out, we'll try to blend it in diamond form, but when the times arrive.

Since everyone seems to like 5 life, 3 defense (except for bats) i think i'll made the first change with that. I won't argue much about the tweaks of the psionic blast, i think i could go 3+ and range 3 being affected by adjacent telepaths.

So next step is the diamond form, as is it should grant Superstrength and 1 autoshield, but no autoskull. It seems that the majority wants a little extra Oomph with that. Maybe the way to go is adding the she can take only 1 damage each attack. So here's the next question: What should be the extra stuff the power grants (besides autoshield and SS)?
a) nothing
b) she can take only one damage from each attack
c) 2 auto shields instead of one
d) one shield blocks everything

keep in mind that her primary role will be supporting cheerleader of the team and that we'll try to add mental shield depending on the wording, space and cost efficiency later.
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Re: The Book of Emma Frost - Design Phase

b, with the mental shield.

I also agree with Porkins that the Telepathic Blast should have a range for the Telepath boost instead of just adjacent figures, maybe 2-4 spaces.

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