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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

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Disabling her telepathic powers while in diamond form is a thematic must.
it's in the original design already, the stuff that's missing is the mental shield, which i assume will be very difficult and long text since it will be optional and the other attacks refer to the SA named "Mental Shield"
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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

Honestly, I'd like there to be two different Emma Frosts: villainous White Queen style and more modern semi-heroic Emma Frost version. One with a diamond form, one without. But I'm not sure if that's just me or not?
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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

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Honestly, I'd like there to be two different Emma Frosts: villainous White Queen style and more modern semi-heroic Emma Frost version. One with a diamond form, one without. But I'm not sure if that's just me or not?
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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

OK, some quick hits from me ...

1) Emma Frost for the name please (I agree this best represents her heroic X-Men career and that we should do a White Queen version at a later time).

2) I 99% like the design as is. Let's not be in a rush to change too much of what the majority voted to put in the design phase!

3) I favor 4 life/4 defense. It's a nice balance where the auto shield from the Diamond Form is still very useful but where she's not going to fall apart without it. Seems like a good compromise between both sides. Also, I think if Jean Grey, Prof X, Cyclops, and Iceman all work with 4 life, so should she.

4) Telepathic Link is an awesome power - but we need to find a way to make it clear that it only works while she's on the battlefield, whether required a revealed OM on her card, somehow specifying that it works while she's on the battlefield, or in some other way. The current text allows the power to work even when she's destroyed, which is a theme break.

5) I like the special attack as is a lot - I think it just needs a tiny bit of oomph from letting other adjacent Telepaths boost it somehow (which has been our Telepath aesthetic so far).

6) Keep Diamond Form simple. An autoshield is really quite useful, IMO. Maybe make it an auto skull and auto shield since she's hitting with diamond as well? But I don't want to see this one get too mechanically complex considering it has a marker already.

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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

I don't want to fill up this thread with too much stuff, but I'll just say I agree with Bats, with 2 minor concerns.

1: Is this a theme break for anyone else?
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I am a little concerned that Telepathic Link, while awesome, is too broad a power (for instance, allowing a figure with a shotgun type power to shoot a buddy through a wall in order to hit baddies), but I'll allow a Hero to weigh in on that.
2: While I certainly see the value in an autoshield, Bats, and would normally say that was reason enough to use the power, the problem is that in the current write-up, she has to enable it at the start of her turn, which makes taking your turn while in Diamond Form pretty boring. We could make it an X OM activation, which could be pretty thematic in that she doesn't play super nice with Xavier.

And finally, a quick suggestion for Psychic Inundation SA:

Range: 4, Attack: 3 or X
Roll 3 (I don't think her base attack should be more than Xavier's) or X attack dice, where X = 1 + the number of friendly Telepaths adjacent to Emma.

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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

1) I saw what you said there about the attacks and agree that it's not ideal thematically ... I think the power, as awesome and simple as it is, needs some tweaking for the reasons I posted anyway, so if we could do something about your concern in the process, I'm all about it (but without immediate suggestions).

2) Magneto 1.0 chooses to place his marker or take it off at the start of his turn too and I never found that design boring ... I could either "play it safe" and go the normal attack and solid defense route or "let 'er rip" and go with his throw but leave myself more vulnerable. I always found that type of decision making to be strategic fun.

3) I'm not sure the wording is quite there but I like the basic concept. Good stuff. I wouldn't mind getting the OM removal back in there, though, honestly. And the no clear LOS needed, as well (I'm thinking that was more notes than a write up).

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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

Yeah, that was really just the first part of the power designating the attack value. I don't know, a special attack of 3 or X just seemed cool (especially on an X-Man).

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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

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Fixing this wording (is it Super Strength or Superstrength?):

DIAMOND FORM

Begin the game with a white Diamond Form Marker. After revealing an Order Marker on this card, you may place or remove the Diamond Form Marker. While the Diamond Form Marker is on White Queen's card, she has the Superstrength special power, and, when rolling defense dice, you may add 1 automatic shield to whatever is rolled. White Queen may not use her Psionic Inundation Blast Special Attack or Telepathic Link while the Diamond Form Marker is on this card.

The last power will make her useful in so many armies, way to stretch outside of her 2 synergies.

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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

I believe it's Super Strength ... take a look at Iron Fist to double check, though.

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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

I'm thinking that Attack should be 3, especially if we add an auto-skull in Diamond Form. Reason being, I don't see her getting in and kicking butt. I see her in the comics hanging near the back in her platform boots with her snobby fake English accent controlling everybody's minds while her fellow X-Men do the butt kicking.
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Re: The Book of White Queen - Design Phase

Yep, Super Strength, fixed.
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DIAMOND FORM

Begin the game with a white Diamond Form Marker. After revealing an Order Marker on this card, you may place or remove the Diamond Form Marker. While the Diamond Form Marker is on White Queen's card, she has the Super Strength special power, and, when rolling defense dice, you may add 1 automatic shield to whatever is rolled. White Queen may not use her Psionic Inundation Blast Special Attack or Telepathic Link while the Diamond Form Marker is on this card.

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