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Old December 9th, 2011, 09:15 PM
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Re: The Book of Mockingbird - Design phase

Love it.

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Re: The Book of Mockingbird - Design phase

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I absolutely love it when 2 or more powers on a card interact with each other in a subtle ways like that.

Btw, related to Agent faction, I'm working out a power for Scientist Supreme where she picks an opponent's Unique Agent Hero to be a Sleeper Agent. She'll either take temporary or permanent control of them after rolling the d20. Details still need to be worked out.
Yeah, I love that too.

That sounds really cool for Scientist Supreme.

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Re: The Book of Mockingbird - Design phase

Don't know the character, but the powers look like a nice solid combination.
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Re: The Book of Mockingbird - Design phase

Mockingbird was an agent for SHIELD and got her nickname "Mockingbird" for her habit of taunting her opponents in battle. She met Hawkeye while he was running security for some Tech company, but when someone at the company double-crossed him, Hawkeye and Mockingbird were left in a pit that was being filled up with some nasty industrial waste. He had a special arrow tip in his tunic and after contacting his Skycycle to hover overhead, he used the special rocket arrow to send it up to his Skycycle while Hawkeye was holding the arrow and Mockingbird was holding Hawkeye.

They escaped and soon became lovers and then married. When Hawkeye formed the West Coast Avengers, Mockingbird was an obvious choice for the team, along with Wonder Man, Tigra and Iron Man. Hank Pym and Moon Knight were also members at different times.

They all got sent back into time and Mockingbird got drugged and separated from the rest and made to believe she was the wife of this cowboy. But later she found out that he was the Phantom Rider and that he had used that drug to control her and that he had raped her. At some point she fought him and he fell over a cliff, but hung onto the ledge. She could have helped him but let him slip off and die. She never told Hawkeye that for a long time and eventually it helped break them apart.

She was later presumed dead during the Skrull invasion, but later found out that she had been taken away and was returned afterward (didn't read that stuff but got that roughly from Wiki).

Now she and Hawkeye are back as a team but it's a spy type organization and they both helped Black Widow on a mission to stop her ex-husband from causing all kinds of problems as he became the new Ronin.

She's very good hand to hand fighting and uses her battle staves as both offensive and defensive weapons. She can connect them to make a staff that she can fight with as well as vault with. She can either throw her battle staves, or she often shoots one or both at an opponent from hidden spring-loaded holsters from her under her sleeves.

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Re: The Book of Mockingbird - Design phase

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Anytime Mockingbird is targeted for a normal attack by a figure within 3 clear sight spaces of her, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 11 or higher, the attacking figure rolls 1 fewer attack die for this attack. Androids are not affected by Mockingbird’s Mocking Words.
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MOCKINGBIRD’S MOCKING WORDS
Anytime Mockingbird is targeted for an adjacent or non-adjacent normal attack by a figure within 3 clear sight spaces of her, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 11 or higher, the attacking figure rolls 1 fewer attack die for this attack if it attacks Mockingbird this turn. Androids are not affected by Mockingbird’s Mocking Words.
  1. According to earlier rules, FAQs, and later rules, "targeting" is kinda all over the place in terms of its definition. So people argue still whether or not it can be associated with adjacent attacks. As we have already established on a previous card (I can't remember which), it is best to just spell out "adjacent or non-adjacent".
  2. Per targeting rules, "targeting" doesn't mean that you have designated an attack yet, you are merely checking. So I am not sure thematically or not if the attacking figure should still be penalized if it ends up actually not attacking Mockingbird at all.
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Anytime Mockingbird is targeted for an adjacent or non-adjacent normal attack by a figure within 3 clear sight spaces of her, you may roll the 20-sided die. If you roll 11 or higher, the attacking figure rolls 1 fewer attack die if it attacks Mockingbird this turn. Androids are not affected by Mockingbird’s Mocking Words.

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Re: The Book of Mockingbird - Design phase

Mockingbird should be one word, but I'm cool with those edits otherwise.

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Re: The Book of Mockingbird - Design phase

Thanks Griff.

I was more concerned about her Mocking Works affecting her and not others as that would be a pain to keep track of and thematically, I've only seen her taunt opponents that were attacking her.

I'll update the SP after the breathing period.

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Re: The Book of Mockingbird - Design phase

Cool. Great changes. I wonder if the title could be shortened to 'Mocking Words', unless it's part of the theme to put her name in it. I'd think it was assumed it was her doing the mocking.
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STAFF VAULT
After moving and before attacking, if Mockingbird moved at least 3 spaces and is unengaged, she may Staff Vault. Staff Vault has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Staff Vault, ignore elevations. Mockingbird may vault over water without stopping, vault over figures without becoming engaged, and vault over obstacles such as ruins. Mockingbird may not vault more than 8 levels up or down in a single vault. After using Staff Vault, you may add 1 to Mockingbird’s normal attack this turn.
As much as we loved reusing Staff Vault, after further consideration I think that we need to come up with something else that is slightly different.

The reason being is that Gambit doesn't have a normal ranged attack and Mockingbird does. Which would mean that she'd be able to vault to height to get a normal ranged attack of 6. That is too much IMO, especially when her ranged attack is with her short battle staves, which she uses to put together to make her battlestaff for fighting and vaulting. Though while we could envision her landing her vault and then breaking down her battlestaff into two smaller ones and throwing one of them, it's kind of a stretch. She should really only be able to attack adjacent figures after vaulting, as it would represent her kicking them or whatever. Additionally, I lowered the levels of her vaulting to be 6 instead of 8 to account for a more realistic level for someone that is going to vault over something and be able to attack. Gambit can get the extra boost because of him charging up his staff to send him a little higher, but a normal athletic human shouldn't be able to match that IMO.

This could also be a generic power that can be used later by other units that have the same situation where it would be too overpowered or not thematic for them to get the attack bonus for a ranged attack after vaulting.

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POLE VAULT
After moving and before attacking, if Mockingbird moved at least 3 spaces and is unengaged, she may Pole Vault. Pole Vault has a move of 3. When counting spaces for Pole Vault, ignore elevations. Mockingbird may vault over water without stopping, vault over figures without becoming engaged, and vault over obstacles such as ruins. Mockingbird may not vault more than 6 levels up or down in a single vault. After using Pole Vault, you may add 1 to Mockingbird’s normal attack this turn if she attacks an adjacent figure.

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Cool. Great changes. I wonder if the title could be shortened to 'Mocking Words', unless it's part of the theme to put her name in it. I'd think it was assumed it was her doing the mocking.
Yeah, I could shorten it to Mocking Words so it can be used again, but I wouldn't want it used willy nilly for a figure that it wasn't really iconic for as it would take away the uniqueness it has for Mockingbird.

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Re: The Book of Mockingbird - Design phase

For a variation on it you could instead of increasing the attack value allow her to attack all figures adjacent (Whirlwind Assault). She vaults into the middle of a crowd and swings her staff around. Saw her do that in the Avengers cartoon.
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