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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

Do we know they weren't able to be piloted? They looked like any other suit of armor he had to me, just with autonomous programming.

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Old November 1st, 2021, 12:49 PM
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

They're just droids. The first Iron Legion was a bunch of Iron Man suits, but these guys aren't the same. They're made to be controlled by an AI, not for anyone to hop in and pilot

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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

Yep. The original Iron Legion is already covered by Iron Man MK V. That’s from Iron Man 3 where Tony has all his empty suits attack. These are from Age of Ultron and they’re just robots. So they really shouldn’t have power armor since we are using that keyword for people in techno-suits of armor.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

Yeah, they're droids, but they're droids specifically to design to look like Power Armor that are going to want to hang out almost entirely with other Power Armor rules. I think it's worth bending (I'm not even going to call it breaking) the rules here.

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I’m also not a fan of two bonding powers here that both get past the no additional turns language. Just creating longer turn chains in factions is power creeping and eventually everyone is going to be trying to sneak in free extra turns into factions to keep up.
I think that time has come? Hawkeye (Avengers) is offering the same kinda deal these guys are on a generalist level, just cheaper and (probably) better than they are.

When I was talking about a protection/guard power, I wasn't really thinking a Beat Cop-style "absorb wounds" deal. That kind of power is insanely useful, and I think it'll make it incredibly hard for them to meet their projected 120 goal. Some sort of tie-down power could really help IM Mkv though, something like this:
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If a figure engaged with this Iron Legion Drone is engaged with at least one other friendly Iron Legion Drone, that figure cannot move.
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Honestly I'm pretty sure I just forgot to put the no additional turns language when I wrote this design. Either way HPP will get dropped, most likely for some defensive, "sacrifice this ILD instead of the target" kind of thing. Still workshopping it.

I've got no strong feelings on Power Armor either way, I'll defer to you guys on that one.

I'm cool with weakening them a bit to hit 120. Comparing them to the uncommon Green Lantern, a defense drop might be a good start.
The no additional turn not in there was intentional as it was intended to take the turn for IM V in his two activation turn. But that was before the bonding got boosted.

For me the key was to not have to take a turn with V and still get full benefit of Vs bonding with another suit.

Also agree on the no power armor for what its worth

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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

Just double checked and yeah you came up with the current version of the bonding japes! The working with MkV is def gonna stay around, no plans to add the "no additional turns" language.

Iron Grasp (cool name) sounds pretty solid, would keep the ranged Iron Man suits away from melee people. Gonna keep thinking of defensive powers but I'll keep this one around for sure.


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AUTONOMOUS COMBAT CIRCUIT
After revealing an Order Marker on a Unique Hero you control, instead of
-Moving with that figure, you may move with this Iron Legion Drone.
-Attacking with that figure, you may attack with this Iron Legion Drone.
Only one Iron Legion Drone may use this special power per turn, or two if the figure you revealed an Order Marker on has the identity of Tony Stark.
I think the only change I'd make here is that the single activation only activates for figures with Avenger Markers. Ties these guys to Avenger/Iron Man armies, and keeps it thematic. Not sure how to get that wording while letting you still use a non-Avenger Marker Tony though.

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The Drones have mini missiles like in the pic I posted higher in the thread, so could do an offensive power with those instead of a repulsor power.

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Instead of moving or attacking normally with this Iron Legion Drone, you may use this special power. Choose a space within 5 clear sight spaces of each Iron Legion Drone that you control and roll the 20-sided die for each space. If you roll 16 or higher, any figure occupying the chosen spaces receives one wound. A figures may only be wounded by this special power once, and you may only use this special power once per game.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

You definitely don't want to keep the open bonding with too many figures then. No additional turns AND more open bonding will likely be very bad.

Weakening them to get to 120 should help ease worries there also.

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Old November 1st, 2021, 09:34 PM
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

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AUTONOMOUS COMBAT CIRCUIT
After revealing an Order Marker on a Unique Hero you control with an Avenger Marker on its card or a Tony Stark figure, instead of
-Moving with that figure, you may move with this Iron Legion Drone.
-Attacking with that figure, you may attack with this Iron Legion Drone.
Only one Iron Legion Drone may use this special power per turn, or two if the figure you revealed an Order Marker on has the identity of Tony Stark.
Probably not the cleanest language, but this is what I'm thinking with Combat Circuit. I don't have the full scope of what the Avenger faction is becoming, but does subbing a figures move or attack while keeping bonding feel like too much?
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

So I don't love Avenger Marker callouts on cards that don't hand them out, but I'll totally admit that's just a personal thing, we've clearly done that kind of callout on units like Coulson. My main question is if an Avenger callout is too damaging if you want to bring War Machine (or any other Tony ally) in a MkV army.

I also did realize we probably want to reword it slightly to make it play like originally intended. In my rewritten version, only 1 Drone can move per turn and only 1 Drone can attack, though if you reveal an OM on Tony you can do one of each. Something like this would be more like the original intent.
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AUTONOMOUS COMBAT CIRCUIT
After revealing an Order Marker on a Unique Hero you control with an Avenger Marker on its card or a Tony Stark figure, before taking a turn with that figure, you may
-Move with this Iron Legion Drone. If you do, that figure cannot move this turn.
-Attack with this Iron Legion Drone. If you do, that figure cannot attack this turn.
Only one Iron Legion Drone may use this special power per turn, or two if the figure you revealed an Order Marker on has the identity of Tony Stark.
I really don't think what they're providing is anything crazy, or anything more than what other units in the game are handing out. You need at least 2 of them for maximum effectiveness, and even then you have to take a turn with Tony to get that maximum effectiveness.

Here'd be my personal pitch. Again, I don't think it offers anything that you can't already get elsewhere, and I think it makes for more thematic builds than just an Avenger Marker callout.
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After revealing an Order Marker on a Unique Hero you control, before taking a turn with that figure, you may
-Move with this Iron Legion Drone. If you do, that figure cannot move this turn.
-Attack with this Iron Legion Drone. If you do, that figure cannot attack this turn.
Only one Iron Legion Drone may use this special power per turn, or two if the figure you revealed an Order Marker on has the identity of Tony Stark. You may only use Autonomous Combat Circuit if there is a Tony Stark in your army.
I agree with japes that weakening their stats a little is also probably a good knob to turn though.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

I really like that version you proposed. I didn't love the idea of absolutely anyone being able to work with the Drones, but only being able to use it with Tony around makes sense.

Down to drop their stats as needed.

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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

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Once per round, instead of moving and attacking normally with this Iron Legion Drone, you may use this special power. Choose a figure within 5 clear sight spaces of each Iron Legion Drone that you control and roll the 20-sided die once for each figure. If you roll 16 or higher, the chosen figure receives one wound.
Any thoughts on something like this over the Repulsor Blast? It's a rough draft, but I think some autowounds could be useful for the faction, and give the Drones more of an identity.
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Re: The Book of Iron Legion Drone - Breathing

I guess my question is if they’re ever shown using mini missiles? Honestly don’t recall. I do think it’s usually better to stick to things the character is shown doing, over something that’s just mentioned in say…a bio somewhere.
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