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Old November 20th, 2018, 10:07 PM
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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

Yea to initial testing. I don't know the character well enough to judge 4 vs. 5 attack. He is a heavily-magic-based character so I could see 200s for him. It's difficult to tell where Highway will land him, so maybe a 200 ballpark to start would work.

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Old November 20th, 2018, 10:23 PM
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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

If we’re aiming for Vertigo Constantine, I could even see R1A4 or R4A3. Combat really ins’t what that guy does. But for the more modern version, R4A4 sounds good.
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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

Either way, I think 4 should be the cap on his attack. Barring any interference from Cap' of course

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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

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Either way, I think 4 should be the cap on his attack. Barring any interference from Cap' of course
Agreed. Even the N52 stuff I've read where he's chucking fireballs and stuff seems to have him worse than Zatanna at most magic, and she's R4A4

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Re: The Book of John Constantine (Design Phase)

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Alright, I'm closing the poll and it looks like most of you prefer we drop the blank mechanic here all together. I'm also updating the Highway power with what we've worked out to be more accurate on theme and less able to be abused. This is what we have now, just not sure where we should start the points at for testing.

NAME = JOHN CONSTANTINE

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = MAGICIAN
PERSONALITY = TRICKY

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 5

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 4
DEFENSE = 3

POINTS = ???


CON ARTIST 16
When John Constantine is targeted by an opponent's figure, roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 16 or higher, John Constantine may not be targeted during this figures turn.

RIDING THE SYNCHRONICITY HIGHWAY
When the 20-sided die is rolled for John Constantine or any Special Power targeting John Constantine, you may roll a 20-sided die and then choose to replace the original roll with your new roll. Once per round, after the 20-sided die is rolled for a friendly figure within 5 clear sight spaces that is not targeting John, you may roll a 20-sided die and then choose to replace the original roll with your new roll.

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John Constantine may cast Unique Spells as if he had the Magical Defense special power. An opponent's figure cannot use the Magical Defense special power when defending against an attack from John Constantine.

Don't have a lot of time today to really evaluate the design and guess as the points range even, so if anyone wants to compare his stats and powers to similar figures and give me a starting points range that would be great. If not, I won't be getting to the initial until next week at the earliest anyway so I can take a closer look at things after the Holiday weekend is over. Family is coming in from out of town.

I propose John Constantine for an Initial Play Test.

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With the Holiday distractions now past us, I'm bumping this back up in search for 3 more votes. @quozl , @Arkham , @Tornado , you 3 have posted in this thread recently, are you happy with the design moving forward here?
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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

@dok @Dysole @Soundwarp SG-1 , any army combos I should be looking at with the once per round limitation now in place for his allies d20 rolls? Still thinking Gamora could he a good one since her d20 power is once per game but can be a game changer when it hits. Maybe Thor to boost the odds of his Lightning hitting someone when he uses that power? Gorgon can destroy someone with a perfect 20, but two chances at 5% is still not all that great of odds to burn your one extra d20 on in a round. I feel as though you would be better served rolling the bonus 20 for a power that has better odds of hitting when the first roll fails.
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Old November 26th, 2018, 03:09 PM
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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

I feel like he'd be killed pretty easily with a defense of 3, even with RtSH allowing him to roll twice for Con Artist, but if you want to hash it out in testing that's fine.

I'd also touch up the wording to refer to him as simply Constantine rather than John or John Constantine.

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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

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Old November 26th, 2018, 03:15 PM
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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

I could see bumping the defense up to 4 from 3, don't think he supports anything higher though. 4 def/5 life and the Con Artist power allowing him to avoid some attacks all together should be fairly solid for this character. Then add to that the Highway power helping him avoid special powers that deal damage via the d20.
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Old November 26th, 2018, 03:17 PM
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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

I'd rather lower Con Artist than raise his Defense.

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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

I'd say lowering his Con Artist to 14 to start would be my preference. Then see how that tests. I'm ok with him being squishy if you get past the d20 roll, I just felt 16 or higher would still be pretty hard to get in 2 rolls, and 3 defense wasn't gonna last if they break through twice in a row.
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Re: The Book of John Constantine - Vote Initial PT!

Yea
So the difference between MD and LM is not casting Common Spells?
Is that something we want to give such a figure specific name?
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