The Pre-SoV Workshop

[Leaf_It]

Originally Posted by UtahScott

For the Great Axes, rename "Tenacity" to "Adrenaline," and "Strategic Charge" to "Into the Fray".

For Dalmar, I agree with All Your Pie--change his Move to 5 and remove Strategic Charge entirely; Dwarven Heroes don't share abilities with squads.


I don't like "Imposing Threat" at all, neither the title or what it does. Tandros Kreel's Combat Challenge makes thematic sense, but I don't know why "Imposing Threat" should impede only attacks on small targets.

ooh, Adrenaline is pretty good. I like that a lot. Into the Fray is also pretty good, though it could potentially have the same hiccups as Charge into Battle.

Combat Challenge has issues. The way it was worded forces you to attack Tadros Kreel specifically. This means that if Kreel and another figure(a) with the ability were engaged to the same figure(b), that figure(b) could not attack. There are two ways to fix this. Change the wording of Combat Challenge by adding "or another figure with the Combat Challenge ability", or by making a different ability, that has a similar effect. I chose the second option, and tried to make a different ability that had a similar effect.

As far as small/medium targets go, I was trying to limit the effectiveness of the ability. However, you aren't the only one to point out that it doesn't make sense to only limit it's effect on small/medium, so I'll just going to remove the size restriction entirely.

[Scytale]

Originally Posted by Leaf_It

As far as small/medium targets go, I was trying to limit the effectiveness of the ability. However, you aren't the only one to point out that it doesn't make sense to only limit it's effect on small/medium, so I'll just going to remove the size restriction entirely.

In restricting the ability you're also changing the theme. This is some sort of distraction Dalmar is doing, so why won't he do so for fellow heroes? He's apparently picky about who he protects, and the name needs to reflect what that means.

[caps]

Adrenaline can work as a replacement name for "Tenacity" but I feel like there's still a better name out there. Maybe "Follow Through"? They're the "Great Axes of Ironstone" what about something like "Ironstone Grit"? "Ironstone Training"?

The Charge power feels like it should have "Burst" in it somehow.

I agree that you should probably remove the Charge power from the hero; just give him 5 move.

If you want to lighten the restrictions on the "Protector of the Clan" power, why not just call it "Protector"?

[Leaf_It]

Originally Posted by Scytale

In restricting the ability you're also changing the theme. This is some sort of distraction Dalmar is doing, so why won't he do so for fellow heroes? He's apparently picky about who he protects, and the name needs to reflect what that means.

Fair point. I've had this design for a long time, and I think my view of it was pretty cloudy at this point. I thought it was perfect, and was expecting a smooth experience with my submission. From what I remember when initially designing it, the size restrictions were based on the sizes of dwarves, thinking that he would prefer his own species over anything else. I didn't want to restrict it to dwarves alone though, so I just restricted the size. It didn't occur to me that this didn't really make sense without that context. As I stated yesterday, I'm going to fully remove the size restriction. I want to keep the common restriction, but I can see reasons not to as well...

Originally Posted by capsocrates

Adrenaline can work as a replacement name for "Tenacity" but I feel like there's still a better name out there. Maybe "Follow Through"? They're the "Great Axes of Ironstone" what about something like "Ironstone Grit"? "Ironstone Training"?

The Charge power feels like it should have "Burst" in it somehow.

I agree that you should probably remove the Charge power from the hero; just give him 5 move.

If you want to lighten the restrictions on the "Protector of the Clan" power, why not just call it "Protector"?

I like to name any new powers I create so that they could be reused in other designs by anyone else. Tenacity is unique enough that I am probably safe letting that mentality slide in this case.

Ironstone Strength? Ironstone Vigor? Ironstone Might? could also reverse it and say "______ of Ironstone".

I think I like Inspired Charge the most so far. Burst of Speed is an idea, but I'm not feeling it.

[Pumpkin_King]

"Reinforce The Line"?

[Tornado]

"Because you're mine, I reinforce the line."

[Scytale]

Originally Posted by Leaf_It

I like to name any new powers I create so that they could be reused in other designs by anyone else. Tenacity is unique enough that I am probably safe letting that mentality slide in this case.

I applaud this.

[Pumpkin_King]

Well, speaking of tenacity...

[Scytale]

I would think a Tenacity power would increase Attack rather than Defense, but this is ok.

Here's a problem with Kate that I'm feeling with Clayton as I'm testing him: the stats seem out-of-place compared to the other Lawmen. The others all are 5 Life 5/7/2/2. Kate is 4 Life 5/6/3/2. The Life difference is sensible, and I'm happy to see 2 Defense. But the 6/3 range/attack stats feel wrong compared to everyone else at 7/2.

[Pumpkin_King]

I wanted to give her three so that there was SOME decision between FtH and normal attack. But then, Murphy & Sully don't really ever choose between. Clay is 3 attack, but the focus on him isn't flashy gunwork.

[wriggz]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin_King

I wanted to give her three so that there was SOME decision between FtH and normal attack. But then, Murphy & Sully don't really ever choose between. Clay is 3 attack, but the focus on him isn't flashy gunwork.

yeah I wouldn't be afraid of 2 attack even if the point total is lower.

[Scytale]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin_King

I wanted to give her three so that there was SOME decision between FtH and normal attack. But then, Murphy & Sully don't really ever choose between. Clay is 3 attack, but the focus on him isn't flashy gunwork.

The extra range (at 7) would be incentive to use her normal attack, as would be height advantage.