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Old October 18th, 2019, 04:33 AM
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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

She’s not heavy on wording on her card, but you have to consider the mind space her glyphs require as well. There’s that factor, and I like the idea of her being able to be encouraged in other builds and armies rather than primarily Mutant ones. Plus, a 2 power card doesn’t hurt. I think it looks really nice here.
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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

FWIW she's no longer a Queen in the period the mini represents - T'Challa annulled their marriage during AvX.

My thoughts:

- I don't think the blizzard should be freezing shadow and molten lava tiles. So I'd rather stick to land/water.
- I also don't like the blizzard completely shutting down turns. Would rather it just slow you down, like subtract from move/range, or force you to choose between moving and attacking.
- Don't like the height stuff on the thunderstorm. Very finicky, limited utility. On a design with a smaller scope I'd be into it, but not here. We should he trimming wherever possible.
- The tornado also feels kind of stuffed to me? Not sure how much can be trimmed there.
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Old October 18th, 2019, 07:39 AM
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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

The Blizzard is a re-use of Ice’s Blizzard special power, in terms of the shutting down mechanics.

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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

Wow, this is pretty crazy. Interesting take! This will be hard to cost, and I think hard to play. She'll be a weird one. The glyphs themselves are useful and annoying, but I'm not sure they're THAT useful. A lot of dice rolling and randomness. She won't be consistent at all.

My first though is to try to trim all of the glyphs. That's a ton of text for a single character. I agree about the thunderstorm, I'm not sure it needs the extra clauses, just a simple d20 roll. Fog is good. Blizzard seem like the best one, as denying movement can route the opponents forces. Tornado is annoying, but if the figure has enough range it's not a huge deal.
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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

You can use Tornado to throw a figure into Blizzard range though and hope they get stuck by the Thuderstorm.

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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

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Wow, this is pretty crazy. Interesting take! This will be hard to cost, and I think hard to play. She'll be a weird one. The glyphs themselves are useful and annoying, but I'm not sure they're THAT useful. A lot of dice rolling and randomness. She won't be consistent at all.

My first though is to try to trim all of the glyphs. That's a ton of text for a single character. I agree about the thunderstorm, I'm not sure it needs the extra clauses, just a simple d20 roll. Fog is good. Blizzard seem like the best one, as denying movement can route the opponents forces. Tornado is annoying, but if the figure has enough range it's not a huge deal.
Tbf, I could see the glyphs being reusable, Utility Glyph style.


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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

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You can use Tornado to throw a figure into Blizzard range though and hope they get stuck by the Thuderstorm.
Ah true. Comboing off of each other would definitely be cool. Still would like to see them trimmed and simplified though. 5 cards for one character (all with plenty of text) is a lot.
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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

If it’s a concern to nail down or being too much I don’t mind scrapping it and revisiting it some other time.
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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

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If it’s a concern to nail down or being too much I don’t mind scrapping it and revisiting it some other time.
I think the design is super cool. I just don't like how much text there is. I think if we streamline the glyph we'll be golden.

She might be hard to cost since it's a weird concept, but that's what testing is for.
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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

Color me slightly concerned about Blizzard as well. I’m not a huge Ice expert, but in my experience the part that always holds her back is always her survivability. It’s not that Blizzard isn’t fairly powerful, it’s that you can just kill her. (Freeze Blast is also pretty powerful, that definitely factors into it as well.)

Blizzard has a much smaller radius and is harder to move once it’s placed, but can be deployed at range, doesn’t dissipate, has an easier roll, and Storm has a lot better turn efficiency synergy, which means you don’t basically have to waste a whole turn to place it.
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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

Some thoughts on potential streamlining based on feedback thus far. I like the idea of her having more control over the Thunderstorm and making it easier to set up with the rest of the stuff.

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Re: The Book of Storm (II) (Breathing)

I think the Thunderstorm Glyph could be reusable (maybe a weather centric Thor?) so I'd try to avoid making it too Storm specific. But in general I like those tweaks.
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