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Re: johnny139's Design Workshop
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Most "move on defense" type powers are already written to clarify that you can't trigger them by attacking yourself. Check out Joker Goons or Robin (Dick Grayson). Sorry if I wasn't clear before Bats, but we definitely didn't take an established rule and throw it out thoughtlessly. There wasn't actually such a rule in place, and we decided not to create one. |
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Re: johnny139's Design Workshop
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1. The conversation (in his thread at least) took place in 2012, not 2014. He was designed in 2012 and released in 2013. 2. Nowhere in the discussion there do I see anything about attacking your own figures. My understanding of that infinite loop was just that you'd be tossing the turn football back and forth between Red Skull and Iron Patriot, not that attacking your own figures was ever part of the equation. I don't see anywhere in his thread where it was discussed that way either. Maybe it was in Red Skull's thread in 2014, though? I'd have to look. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: johnny139's Design Workshop
I'm sure you're right, though. It was probably never a directly stated rule. I can tell you, though, that it was an assumption that formative members of the group were designing under, and that this realization has the potential to impact many designs that were never costed or intended with that cheese.
You have to realize that pre-CRB we just didn't consider some of the cheesy tactics that the CRB folks pointed us toward. That's as true for the Civvies and attacking your own figures as it is for any other design that became concerning due to really unexpected tactics or combinations. C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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#412
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Re: johnny139's Design Workshop
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I think attacking your own figures probably isn't a lingering source of cheese for most powers like Panic, though. My experience is that, if only for the sake of clarity, you guys tended to be explicit about powers like that triggering on opponents' attacks. (or you already retconned those kinds of restrictions in after discovering years ago that you'd struck cheese) I'd be happy to help with some research on going through early designs and figuring out exactly who's impacted by attacking your own figures, just to try and identify any other unaddressed cases like the Civs. Probably I'll start getting the time for that right around April 24th. |
#413
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Re: johnny139's Design Workshop
I had attacking-your-own-figures specifically in mind when designing The Crow (Shooting the bird off your friends heads).
Not that that design should be a role model. |
#414
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Re: johnny139's Design Workshop
Don’t remember much about the design process with that one. Did you share that intent with anyone?
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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Re: The Book of Civilians
@Ronin
Would this do the trick? Quote:
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
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#416
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Re: The Book of Civilians
Why are you changing my favorite unit?
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#417
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Re: The Book of Civilians
Is your favorite part about it attacking your own figures to move the Civilians?
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
#418
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Re: The Book of Civilians
Yes, that's one of my favorite bits.
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#419
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Re: The Book of Civilians
Bummer. It's:
1. Never been the intention of the design 2. Considered competitively overpowered by Soundwarp C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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Re: The Book of Civilians
Well the gist was that he feels it’s really powerful, and because of that it’ll hold back the design of every future Citizen.
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