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Question Death Knights + Air Elementals?

Hey strategy guys! Has anyone tried Death Knights and Air Elementals enough to say if itís particularly strong against melee? The air screen tactic is something Iíve read a little bit about, but since I donít have DKís I havenít attempted it myself. I ask because I intend to begin playtesting Boreos (C3V), which is basically a stronger Air Elemental and donít have enough experience to compare it to anything other than my gut.

I donít expect the DK+Air combo to be good against range, but if the internet has any experience in that department, feel free to share.

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Re: Death Knights + Air Elementals?

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Hey strategy guys! Has anyone tried Death Knights and Air Elementals enough to say if itís particularly strong against melee? The air screen tactic is something Iíve read a little bit about, but since I donít have DKís I havenít attempted it myself. I ask because I intend to begin playtesting Boreos (C3V), which is basically a stronger Air Elemental and donít have enough experience to compare it to anything other than my gut.

I donít expect the DK+Air combo to be good against range, but if the internet has any experience in that department, feel free to share.

Thanks!
I have just finished a bout of Boroes tests with the DK and Airs against a bunch of melee builds. The army is okay, but nothing to write home about.


The Problem is most common melee squads are 4 + 1, so the numbers are way against the DK-Air army. Additionally you either have figures with pretty solid stats (Knights/Heavies) or can win with sheer numbers due to low cost (Greeks/Romans). It doesn't help that Orc's come with Large bonding options, and most Warlords or Human champions have solid Life/Defense, so they can weather a few first strikes.


I imagine Kyrie would suffer here.


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Re: Death Knights + Air Elementals?

Funnily enough, I think the strongest Deathknight build base is:
3x DK
Mittens

Call me crazy, but Mittens with 7 move, 4 attack, 3 defense, and 6 life is very efficient for his stats. I messed around with this build for a while, but I just couldn't get it good enough. The problem is that this army is already at 300, and you better have an answer for Hounds/Chompy/TKN/Braxas.

Eltahale is a good choice, bringing it to 440. It still has problems even with that as the range MU is still tough. If you run KMA instead, you'll have trouble with the Large MUs. It's a lose-lose.

I actually think AE's are pretty weak with DK's, seeing as they don't help at all in the problematic MU's (minus Braxas). Mittens at least has a bit of a punch.
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Funnily enough, I think the strongest Deathknight build base is:
3x DK
Mittens

Call me crazy, but Mittens with 7 move, 4 attack, 3 defense, and 6 life is very efficient for his stats. I messed around with this build for a while, but I just couldn't get it good enough. The problem is that this army is already at 300, and you better have an answer for Hounds/Chompy/TKN/Braxas.

Eltahale is a good choice, bringing it to 440. It still has problems even with that as the range MU is still tough. If you run KMA instead, you'll have trouble with the Large MUs. It's a lose-lose.

I actually think AE's are pretty weak with DK's, seeing as they don't help at all in the problematic MU's (minus Braxas). Mittens at least has a bit of a punch.
Mittens is a different option.

I guess one could run Incendiborgs. Not bonded, but they should give braxas troubles (large, ranged, and she has to get 3 “dud-kills”). If you have points left over, there’s bonded filler in the 25/30 options.

Venoc Spam is another option I guess.

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