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Old June 1st, 2009, 12:39 PM
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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

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My first thought thought about Atlaga was "anything in one go?" Sure thats a great ability, but I probably wouldn't use it. One shot one kill... its almost ominous. I'd let him sit close behind the main fight just as a threat. They want to bring their heavy hitter in, but can't because that guy in green tights is watching!

Also it's only a 25% chance, so really its all just a mind game anyway.
A 25% chance to auto-destroy any unit (from 5 spaces away!) isn't exactly a "longshot" either though. Any smart player will have to respect that chance if they are fielding any units worth more than 100 points or so.

I think the key to defeating Atlaga and the Protectors as well, is to field masses (hint hint) of ranged common squads.
I agree with all of it, but 25% once per game is very different than 25%. Sure that is a very high auto kill rate, but your chances of missing are 75%. I could never count that as a kill before I use it.

Respect it? Yes, but if you miss with it (which is 3 times more likely than a hit) your opponent will not respect it for the rest of the game.

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Old June 1st, 2009, 01:23 PM
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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

Yes, but if nothing else Atlaga will draw fire away from your other Kyrie for an extra round (or two) while the threat still exists.

As was said earlier, the effect of the power is more on your opponents mind than your using it as a key strategy.

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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

This is NOT good on the front lines. From what I saw from him yesterday in a proxy game, he needs to be used as a late game figure. He's far too fragile, and Bolt of Witherwood just doesn't have the confidence that you would think. One 7, and you feel like crap.
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Old June 1st, 2009, 05:20 PM
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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

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This is NOT good on the front lines. From what I saw from him yesterday in a proxy game, he needs to be used as a late game figure. He's far too fragile, and Bolt of Witherwood just doesn't have the confidence that you would think. One 7, and you feel like crap.
Indeed. Atlaga is the epitome of clean-up, but he also gives you a great boost while he's milling around in your start zone waiting for his turn to shine.
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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

Atlaga is great for a sudden death game, like the Big Old Monster Battle at this year's GenCon, where killing a specific unit wins automatically.

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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

Aren't the odds of losing a figure to Sudema just a little worse than losing one to Atlaga? Why then, is there all this commotion about his Witherwood Bolt? Sudema has an autokill ability with a slightly lower chance to score, but she can also use it all day. That being said, she rarely sees the light of day in most playing circles and certainly isn't tournament worthy. I think Atlaga's main strength lays in his movement boost to all Kyrie and his role as a solid warrior.

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Old June 3rd, 2009, 10:33 AM
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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

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Aren't the odds of losing a figure to Sudema just a little worse than losing one to Atlaga? Why then, is there all this commotion about his Witherwood Bolt? Sudema has an autokill ability with a slightly lower chance to score, but she can also use it all day. That being said, she rarely sees the light of day in most playing circles and certainly isn't tournament worthy. I think Atlaga's main strength lays in his movement boost to all Kyrie and his role as a solid warrior.
I think you've got it. Atlaga aslo has a ranged attack and can fly. He's more mobile than Sudema is, and for less points.
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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

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Aren't the odds of losing a figure to Sudema just a little worse than losing one to Atlaga? Why then, is there all this commotion about his Witherwood Bolt? Sudema has an autokill ability with a slightly lower chance to score, but she can also use it all day. That being said, she rarely sees the light of day in most playing circles and certainly isn't tournament worthy. I think Atlaga's main strength lays in his movement boost to all Kyrie and his role as a solid warrior.
I think you've got it. Atlaga aslo has a ranged attack and can fly. He's more mobile than Sudema is, and for less points.
The real reason is that Bolt of the Witherwood is just a bonus you get for using Atlaga - not the reason you draft him. Stare of Stone is the only thing Sudema has going for her.... period.

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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

Also, he can use the Bolt and still use his normal attack, which hits hard on its own. The bolt is icing on the cake.

If I were playing in War of the Worlds, I'd strongly consider a Valhalla army now.

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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

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Also, he can use the Bolt and still use his normal attack, which hits hard on its own. The bolt is icing on the cake.

If I were playing in War of the Worlds, I'd strongly consider a Valhalla army now.
I could see something like this doing pretty well, as I doubt Braxas will see much play:

Atlaga - 90
Raelin - 170
Sentinels / Minions / Protectors x2 - 390

I'd probably be going with the Sentinels - they're just so tough to kill with Raelin.

EDIT: I don't really see a decent Runa / Valhallan army at those point totals. The best I can come up with is:

Atlaga - 90
Raelin - 170
Runa - 290
Minions - 400

and I don't like that at all.

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Re: The Book of Atlaga the Kyrie Warrior

I was kicking ideas around in my head earlier and came up with this:

Atlaga
2x Minions
Nilfheim
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5 move minions, poweful clean up figure in Atlaga, and anti-rat and everything else in Nilfheim.

I'm going to have to play test this guy and this army soon.
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I was kicking ideas around in my head earlier and came up with this:

Atlaga
2x Minions
Nilfheim
495

5 move minions, poweful clean up figure in Atlaga, and anti-rat and everything else in Nilfheim.

I'm going to have to play test this guy and this army soon.
I'm looking forward to trying this as well. Only 8 figures, but they're all oh so good.
I've been contemplating a similar army with Zelrig instead.

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