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I don't have many of the "recommended" C3V figures, but I have all the cards! I just proxy most of them, and that works fine. I have lots of different kinds of figures, and just plug them in. Its the cards that are the heart of the game, not the figures.
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I think the lack of multiple tiers and the double talk of "We have so much planned for HeroScape"/"If it doesn't back it's over" pushed away a lot of potential backers.
Connected to the multiple tiers was the idea that they wanted one all-in package that provided good value, but as a commenter on reddit said, they could have provided value by using cardboard mats like AotP. If there was a basic tier that used cardboard mats and an addon upgrade for the full terrain stack that could've helped. And having addons let's you attract gamers from other franchises (Gloomhaven?) who are interested just in terrain or minis. |
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...144007420.html
Hope Hasbro tries to sell some other stuff as well, if they're looking to just focus on core brands. Hope Restoration Games and/or Soaring Rhino games are looking to buy stuff. Hope that message of not making books of AoA stuff yet might play into things. I'll also take the various playtesters still testing and finalizing things and maybe releasing hypothetical stats only or something. I'm currently at the bargaining stage lol. Upset City Baby. |
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But I think Knox is probably closest to the truth on this. You don't spend a year, at least not full time and with a large "War Council," on a project and all you have is what they showed us. So much of it was undeveloped. I mean they kept saying, we can't show you stuff because the 3d printers are all being used right now. So you didn't print ALL the stuff ahead of time for the campaign?!!! No, they were working on it at a decent pace, maybe thought they had another 6-9 months, but were pressured to bump up the production schedule by a LOT, which gave us the trainwreck we all witnessed. I mean how does a $9 billion toy and game company fail so badly, on their own (lame) platform, to present a decent toy/game to its customers? I will reiterate what others have said, too many new factions, too much stuff all at once, no need for new generals, too much time telling us "We have all this stuff planned down the road, stuff you'll REALLY like (historical, commons) but you've just got to buy this stuff for now, THEN we'll give you what you actually want." and not enough time actually developing what they actually were trying to sell us. I'm really going to try to give the Team who created this stuff the benefit of the doubt and say that the worst decisions were not theirs but Hasbro execs, but this thing was an absolute mess from Day 1 of the launch. It really was a slap in the face to the Heroscape community. |
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There are some, but to my knowledge any minis that come in a pack the intent is to, eventually, use all of them in VC so there's no wasted $$.
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My understanding is that all figures for C3V have 3D printing available as an option. So price and availability shouldn't be a barrier if someone is willing to get them printed and deal with them being unpainted or do the painting (so basically they're as good as the official product on this front).
C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.
DISCLAIMER: C3G claims no ownership of the characters or artwork used for C3G customs. All rights for the characters belong to their respective publishers/creators. C3G cards are not intended for sale, and C3G does not authorize any party to profit from C3G cards. |
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It is reasonable to blame Hasbro for their lack of support for this crowdfunding project. It is also reasonable to blame Avalon Hill for a ****-poor management of this project. |
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