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Re: The Book of Techno (Vote Initial)

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Re: The Book of Techno (Vote Initial)

No concerns from me, he has a lot of options but none of the combinations are ultimately that crazy.


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Re: The Book of Techno (Vote Initial)

Yea looks good.

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Re: The Book of Techno (Vote Initial)

This passes

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Re: The Book of Techno (Initial Playtesting)

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NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Techno @150 points

Army Test
Map: Mole Hills
Units: Original Thunderbolts (1200) vs Robot, Red Skull, Star-Lord, Fantomex, Timber Wolf (1200)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Mole Hills
Units: Techno @150, Songbird, Atlas, MACH-I (800) vs Wrecking Crew (800)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Mole Hills
Units: Techno @150, Songbird, Atlas, MACH-I (800) vs Wrecking Crew (800)
Spoiler Alert!

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Army Test
Map: Mole Hills
Units: Techno @150, Citizen V, Captain America, Songbird, Meteorite (970) vs Iron Patriot, Valkyrie, Captain Marvel (Mary) (970)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Techno had a couple really great games, and only fell victim to his glass jaw once. He's definitely looking strong, but accounting for all the support figures backing him up in these games, I'm not sure he's coming in too hot.

The overall results look nice on balance, so I'm taking that as a good sign. Open to other thoughts here, though.


Change: replaced the following from Tech-Pac:
Quote:
-when Techno attacks, he may attack one additional time.
with the following:
Quote:
-after Techno attacks a non-adjacent figure, he may attack one additional time.
Army Test
Map: Mole Hills
Units: Techno @150, Citizen V, Captain America, Songbird, Meteorite (970) vs Professor X, Jubilee, Deadpool, Storm, Angel (Warren), Toad (970)
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Army Test
Map: Mole Hills
Units: Techno @150, Citizen V, Captain America, Songbird, Meteorite, Skrull Infiltrator x2 (1000) vs Fantastic Four (1000)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: The double attack being slightly more niche feels appropriate. Doesn't make a difference when he's trying to go for height and snipe, but it calls for some tricky decisions if he gets tied down. Still decent showings and 1-1, so I'm happy with the change.

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Re: The Book of Techno (Initial Playtesting)

Not really sure how we rule this. I’m i the same boat with Mera and ended up increasing point value due to wounds dealt, however, she’s being surrounded with suppprt to make her shine and she still lost 2 out of 3 games. I figure we still boost the cost, but is that right? At what point do we account the value for the supporting units doing what they are costed to do?
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Re: The Book of Techno (Initial Playtesting)

Well, I feel like as long as the figure is:
a) draftable
b) not breaking anything

Then we're probably okay. For most units, you can give or take a little bit and still be at a reasonable price point.

I do think there's one important difference between Mera and Techno, in that Techno's factional support is already in place, whereas Mera doesn't really have hers yet, and will get more down the line as we build up the Red Lanterns.

I think I might try some light-touch tweaks to take the edge off his performance and try running him in a couple more games, just to see how those go:

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NAME = TECHNO
SECRET IDENTITY = PAUL NORBERT EBERSOL

SPECIES = HUMAN
UNIQUENESS = UNIQUE HERO
CLASS = CHARLATAN
PERSONALITY = ARROGANT

SIZE/HEIGHT = MEDIUM 5

LIFE = 4

MOVE = 5
RANGE = 4
ATTACK = 3
DEFENSE = 4

POINTS = 150


TECH-PAC
After revealing an Order Marker on this card, you may choose two of the following effects for the rest of your turn:
-add 2 to Techno's Move number and Techno will not take any leaving engagement attacks.
-add 3 to Techno's Range number and Techno can attack non-adjacent figures even if he is engaged.
-when Techno attacks, he may attack one additional time.
-after Techno attacks a non-adjacent figure, he may attack one additional time.
-all figures that were engaged with Techno at the start of your turn subtract 1 from their Defense numbers.

RECKLESS ENGAGEMENT
If Techno is not adjacent to any friendly figures and is engaged with at least one enemy figure, add 1 die to his normal attack and subtract 1 die from his defense.

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Re: The Book of Techno (Initial Playtesting)

You’re right on the difference there. That’s why I ultimately aimed higher to play it safe.
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Re: The Book of Techno (Initial Playtesting)

@Ronin if Techno lost 3 of 4, why do you feel he needs nerfing? Things seem pretty well balanced in those tests. I definitely wouldn't weaken him.

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Re: The Book of Techno (Initial Playtesting)

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@Ronin if Techno lost 3 of 4, why do you feel he needs nerfing? Things seem pretty well balanced in those tests. I definitely wouldn't weaken him.
I don't know that he needs it, but I suspect he may. The tricky thing is that in order to get a sense of how he plays in his faction, you need to work in a lot of supporting figures and Techno's own impact is a little diluted in all the goings-on. Even though the overall results are pretty even-looking, Techno himself had some pretty good games, and there's room for him to have overperformed without swinging the win-loss record by too much.

Mainly I'm treading carefully because I want to make sure I'm not just seeing what I want to see in the results. If people are okay with moving the tested version forward at 150, then I'm okay with it.

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Re: The Book of Techno (Initial Playtesting)

From what you have in the test reports, yes, that looks good to me.

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