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Old October 7th, 2022, 01:05 PM
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

I believe that comment about wanting to sell Heroscape, not just terrain, may have been something I said. And I mostly just mean it for this first release. They should obviously sell terrain in the future, but if they're gauging interest then they need to gauge interest for the whole game system. If people only wanted Heroscape for it's terrain, then Heroscape as a whole wouldn't succeed. That isn't to say that selling only terrain would be a bad business venture, just that selling only terrain to start off may skew the the estimates for how much of each product to make in the future.

I'm no business expert, but those are just my thoughts on why AH would want to sell the unit as a whole, as opposed to as its parts.
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Old October 7th, 2022, 01:11 PM
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

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I believe that comment about wanting to sell Heroscape, not just terrain, may have been something I said. And I mostly just mean it for this first release. They should obviously sell terrain in the future, but if they're gauging interest then they need to gauge interest for the whole game system. If people only wanted Heroscape for it's terrain, then Heroscape as a whole wouldn't succeed. That isn't to say that selling only terrain would be a bad business venture, just that selling only terrain to start off may skew the the estimates for how much of each product to make in the future.

I'm no business expert, but those are just my thoughts on why AH would want to sell the unit as a whole, as opposed to as its parts.
With no offense intended, I really don't get the whole "estimates" angle for the campaign. They should sell it in a way that makes the campaign successful, period. Any estimates they get are only relevant if it's going to have this exact $250 all-in-one form in the after market, which we're almost certain it won't.

C3G can be played with official Heroscape, but it's not recommended.


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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

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If people only wanted Heroscape for it's terrain, then Heroscape as a whole wouldn't succeed.

From Hasbro's point of view, why not? As Stan Lee once said about Marvel comics, "I don't care if kids buy them to get the staples."
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Old October 7th, 2022, 01:37 PM
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If people only wanted Heroscape for it's terrain, then Heroscape as a whole wouldn't succeed.

From Hasbro's point of view, why not? As Stan Lee once said about Marvel comics, "I don't care if kids buy them to get the staples."
That's the kind of scrappy underdog mentality we need here (but doesn't seem like the kind of thing you get from folks working on a battleship like Hasbro).

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

After all those people mailed them a hex they probably figured no one cares about terrain.

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

The terrain count for the new set is based on all the hexes people mailed in to SAVE HEROSCAPE in 2010-11.



Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket...
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

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The terrain count for the new set is based on all the hexes people mailed in to SAVE HEROSCAPE in 2010-11.



Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket...
So, will the new terrain come pre-inked with the written notes?

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Old October 7th, 2022, 03:07 PM
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

It's...customized. Yeah, that's it. Customized terrain!

"We at Avalon Hill thank you for your financial support in returning HeroScape to the shelves of retail America. Please note that several hexes in your set have handwritten messages of appreciation that you did, in fact, 'Bring Back HeroScape.' We hope these messages will inspire you each time you build another playfield out of the box, and that after you finish the game, you'll plan to 'Bring Back HeroScape' to your kitchen table as soon as possible.

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

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It's...customized. Yeah, that's it. Customized terrain!

"We at Avalon Hill thank you for your financial support in returning HeroScape to the shelves of retail America. Please note that several hexes in your set have handwritten messages of appreciation that you did, in fact, 'Bring Back HeroScape.' We hope these messages will inspire you each time you build another playfield out of the box, and that after you finish the game, you'll plan to 'Bring Back HeroScape' to your kitchen table as soon as possible.

"Excelsior!"
I would totally buy a limited run terrain set that included one of those hexes in a little display case, so that would be so cool
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Old October 7th, 2022, 03:19 PM
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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

Hasbro is so busy selling action figures, super heroes and super villains (and the vehicles and accessories for them), that HS terrain remains an afterthought. The board games they sell are mostly that -- games on a flat piece of cardboard.

Thanks to Steve Baker, Hasbro is sitting on a terrain-tile goldmine. Maybe they still understand its potential but forgot how to market it, like they did back in the day. Notice how the stackable terrain is shown first.

At least that first teaser video we got showed figure silhouettes sitting on top of terrain stacks.

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Re: Heroscape 2nd Edition is here!

Vecna posted this on BGG. I'm not sure of the source but i have been texted this info as well:

I believe it to be terrain contents for AoA Vanguard

Quote:@here so you can locate this later:

Hex Tile breakdown:
6 Grass Tiles (24 hex)
4 Grass Tiles (7 hex)
2 Grass Tiles (3 hex)
6 Grass Tiles (2 hex)
10 Grass Tiles (1 hex)
2 Rock Tiles (24 hex)
2 Rock Tiles (7 hex)
1 Rock Tile (3 hex)
5 Rock Tiles (2 hex)
4 Rock Tiles (1 hex)
2 Sand Tiles (7 hex)
1 Sand Tile (3 hex)
5 Sand Tiles (2 hex)
4 Sand Tiles (1 hex)
SPARKLY water tiles (20)

Palm Tree (3)
Underbrush (6)

single thin wall connecter (20)
small thin wall piece (10)
big thin wall piece (10)
big thin wall arch (2)
big thin wall ruin A (2)
big thin wall ruin B (2)
big thin wall ruin C (2)
connecter base (20)

A must read for all 'Scapers!

Last edited by R˙chean; October 7th, 2022 at 04:19 PM. Reason: look for whitty comment later
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