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Old January 11th, 2020, 03:07 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: Crossbones @160 points

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Map: Custom
Units: Crossbones @160, Red Skull, Civilians x2 (500) vs Captain America, Hawkeye (II), Wasp (I), Stan Lee (500)
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Map: Custom
Units: Crossbones @160, Red Skull, Baron Zemo (Heinrich), Angel (Warren), Batroc the Leaper (800) vs Cheshire, Lady Shiva, Black Bat, Hand Ninja x3 (800)
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THOUGHTS ON THE TESTED UNIT'S COST, BALANCE, & DRAFTABILITY: Fun low-level hitter for the Masterminds. Really enjoyed him in the Skull/Zemo army.

EDIT: Realizing now that you'd asked about Penguin (II), but that completely slipped my mind. Sorry! Fwiw, I think Penguin (II) also wanting Criminals/Thieves might make the test big enough to the point that it wouldn't really be about Crossbones anymore.

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Old January 12th, 2020, 09:42 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

Crossbones is looking good!
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Old January 12th, 2020, 09:45 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

Looks like he played exactly how i had hoped. Thanks.

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Old January 13th, 2020, 03:01 AM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

Looks good!

I actually didn't previously feel the Cobblepot is wasted in a standard Red Skull army. Being able to keep the Cube just a bit longer was that good. Haven't quite gotten the hang of new Skull yet so maybe I'd have a different opinion now.

Either way, no worries at all! I bet the next play tester can tackle it.
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Old January 18th, 2020, 06:36 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

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I actually didn't previously feel the Cobblepot is wasted in a standard Red Skull army. Being able to keep the Cube just a bit longer was that good. Haven't quite gotten the hang of new Skull yet so maybe I'd have a different opinion now.
Maybe not. I'm still inclined to think that Skull-Penguin is its own axis of evil that's kind of defocusing Crossbones in the test, but I can see why you'd want to make sure you weren't excessively strengthening that.

I imagine the tweaks to Skull have moderated that synergy a little, but I'm not sure I've played him with Penguin since the reeval either.

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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

Looks like Ronin's test never got linked in the OP here.

What are you looking for in the (final?) round of tests here?

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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

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Alright, figuring some games out. Anything we want to make sure we hit here?
I think a Red Skull (C3G) + Penguin II test would be nice. Other than that, maybe just a test with an OM manager we havenít tried yet? Robot?
Nvm, I can work off this.

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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE PLAYTEST UNIT: CROSSBONES

Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Crossbones (160), Penguin (II) (140), Red Skull (250), Bodyguard x8 (120), Hired Guns (130) (800)( vs Daredevil (II) (200), Luke Cage (190), Jessica Jones (220), Scarlet Spider (Ben Reilly) (190) (800)
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Army Test
Map: Custom
Units: Crossbones (160), Robot (210), Winter Soldier (240), Baron von Strucker (210), Viper (180) (1,000) vs Captain America (240), Iron Man (Avengers) (270), Falcon (140), Hawkeye (I) (150), Black Panther (200) (1,000)
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

Whoa..how much of those massacres were results of Crossbones?

edit: Doesn't actually look like much. 9 wounds in two games and not much else contributed.

The only games he comes off as undercover are with Robot or tea.ed with penguin II and hired guns. In general he looks about where most double ranged attacker's are but his double attack isn't an always thing.

Not saying you are wrong just when a figure only does 4 damage in a game where his only real use is damag ing things, to hear the phrase undercosted seems off.

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Old February 3rd, 2020, 10:25 PM
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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

His damage was timely, though, and helped finish things off. It's not that he himself is that tough, but that he's a solid and cheap addition to already good things that makes their strengths stronger.

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Re: The Book of Crossbones (Public Playtesting)

I'm a little troubled that he never seems to use the human shield power.
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I'm a little troubled that he never seems to use the human shield power.
I noticed that as well. Still soaking in the data here, but thanks Bats!
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