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Old January 7th, 2024, 04:50 PM
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Hmm, OK, here are the elusive "nested activations". Did we want to keep that here?

Also, playtest links and art credit need updating.
I don't know what you are referring to?
@Ronin may be able to articulate it better, but maybe not a concern? Did we end up with Zemo doing activations inside his own activation (nested) or outside of it?
This is Baron Zemo's power

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During setup, you may add up to 3 allied Unique Heroes to the Masters of Evil faction. During Baron Zemo's ordered activation, instead of either his move or attack phase, he may activate a Masters of Evil ally that has not been activated by this ability this round.
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Old January 8th, 2024, 09:51 AM
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That's pretty strong precedent. yea

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Old January 8th, 2024, 01:01 PM
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Yeah I was kinda afraid we had already done it somewhere. Totally didn't even catch it here myself, only picked up on it later in the MotU thread.

I don't think it explodes anything, but having that in the ecosystem means abilities can't assume there's only one activation happening at a time.

Relevant for stuff like Magnetic Throw Defense that applies to the current activation; that's not clearly scoped when one activation is happening in the middle of another.
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Yea
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Old January 8th, 2024, 04:15 PM
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Yeah I was kinda afraid we had already done it somewhere. Totally didn't even catch it here myself, only picked up on it later in the MotU thread.

I don't think it explodes anything, but having that in the ecosystem means abilities can't assume there's only one activation happening at a time.

Relevant for stuff like Magnetic Throw Defense that applies to the current activation; that's not clearly scoped when one activation is happening in the middle of another.
So could if be sovled by changing the wording from
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During the ordered activation of a Unique Hero in the Hydra or Maggia faction, instead of their move or attack phase, you may activate a Dreadnought. Once per round, if you lost initiative, you may instead activate 2 Dreadnoughts. You may not activate additional figures this turn.

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After the ordered activation of a Unique Hero in the Hydra or Maggia faction, where they skipped either their move or attack phase, you may activate a Dreadnought. Once per round, if you lost initiative, you may instead activate 2 Dreadnoughts. You may not activate additional figures this turn.

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That style would avoid the nesting, yeah.
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Old January 8th, 2024, 06:30 PM
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Yeah I was kinda afraid we had already done it somewhere. Totally didn't even catch it here myself, only picked up on it later in the MotU thread.

I don't think it explodes anything, but having that in the ecosystem means abilities can't assume there's only one activation happening at a time.

Relevant for stuff like Magnetic Throw Defense that applies to the current activation; that's not clearly scoped when one activation is happening in the middle of another.
So could if be sovled by changing the wording from
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During the ordered activation of a Unique Hero in the Hydra or Maggia faction, instead of their move or attack phase, you may activate a Dreadnought. Once per round, if you lost initiative, you may instead activate 2 Dreadnoughts. You may not activate additional figures this turn.

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After the ordered activation of a Unique Hero in the Hydra or Maggia faction, where they skipped either their move or attack phase, you may activate a Dreadnought. Once per round, if you lost initiative, you may instead activate 2 Dreadnoughts. You may not activate additional figures this turn.

@IAmBatman or @Arch-vile could you sign off on this wording change and I'll update the OP and let the Art Dept know its good? Thanks.
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Gotta include the italics, as each Uncommon Hero has its own card. I changed "their" to "its" as well to keep consistent with the singular Unique Hero callout. With that, looks good.

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During the ordered activation of a Unique Hero in the Hydra or Maggia faction, instead of its move or attack phase, you may activate 1 Dreadnought. Once per round, if you lost initiative, you may instead activate 2 Dreadnoughts. You may not activate additional figures this turn.
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Gotta include the italics, as each Uncommon Hero has its own card. I changed "their" to "its" as well to keep consistent with the singular Unique Hero callout. With that, looks good.

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During the ordered activation of a Unique Hero in the Hydra or Maggia faction, instead of its move or attack phase, you may activate 1 Dreadnought. Once per round, if you lost initiative, you may instead activate 2 Dreadnoughts. You may not activate additional figures this turn.
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@japes this will need an art update when you get a chance. OP is up to date. Thanks.

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Old January 8th, 2024, 10:22 PM
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updated

Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those.
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