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Old June 7th, 2009, 02:52 PM
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Negated Marro Dividers and Marro Rebirth

Everyone knows that the marro dividers have an ability called self replicating that doesn't allow the marro hive to reborn them. What would happen if the marro dividers were negated by a glyph or morsbane's rod of negation? Would the marro hive beable to use marro rebirth on a divider? This also goes for Grok Riders as well.

I'm sorry if this question has been explained before, but I tried searching and nothing came up so I doubt their is a thread out there like this.

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Everyone knows that the marro dividers have an ability called self replicating that doesn't allow the marro hive to reborn them. What would happen if the marro dividers were negated by a glyph or morsbane's rod of negation? Would the marro hive beable to use marro rebirth on a divider? This also goes for Grok Riders as well.

I'm sorry if this question has been explained before, but I tried searching and nothing came up so I doubt their is a thread out there like this.
Commons can't be negated, as far as I know.
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Re: Negated Marro Dividers and Marro Rebirth

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Everyone knows that the marro dividers have an ability called self replicating that doesn't allow the marro hive to reborn them. What would happen if the marro dividers were negated by a glyph or morsbane's rod of negation? Would the marro hive beable to use marro rebirth on a divider? This also goes for Grok Riders as well.

I'm sorry if this question has been explained before, but I tried searching and nothing came up so I doubt their is a thread out there like this.
Commons can't be negated, as far as I know.
Oh... Whoops.

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Re: Negated Marro Dividers and Marro Rebirth

Negation only works on Uniques, if I'm correct.
EDIT: Ah yes. "...you may choose one of your opponents UNIQUE figures..."


Also, in the book of the Grok Riders:
GROK TRAINING : Negation
If the Grok Riders are "Negated" by Morsbane's Rod of Negation,
are they then able to be cloned by Marro Hive?
No. Morsbane's Rod of Negation only works on Unique figures. The Grok Riders are a common squad.
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Re: Negated Marro Dividers and Marro Rebirth

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• Glyph of Nilrend (Negation)
When one of your figures stops here, you may choose any opponent's unique figure. Roll the 20-sided die. If you roll a 1 - 4, nothing happens. If you roll a 5 - 20, place the Gold Negation Marker on the chosen figure's Army Card. All of that figure's special powers are negated for the rest of the game. (emphasis added)
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Re: Negated Marro Dividers and Marro Rebirth

However, if there were some kind of common-negating power, I believe that the Dividers would be able to be rebirthed by the hive if they were affected by it.

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Re: Negated Marro Dividers and Marro Rebirth

This is only theory of course, but I'm not sure about that.

Grok Training and Self-Replicating I wouldn't really call abilities, but more of a disability.

As has been said, a common negating power doesn't exists at this time, but my guess is that if it does in the future it will not negate 'negative' abilities.

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However, if there were some kind of common-negating power, I believe that the Dividers would be able to be rebirthed by the hive if they were affected by it.
That is true, but that is a pretty big "if".
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This is only theory of course, but I'm not sure about that.

Grok Training and Self-Replicating I wouldn't really call abilities, but more of a disability.

As has been said, a common negating power doesn't exists at this time, but my guess is that if it does in the future it will not negate 'negative' abilities.
I agree -- the poor Obsidians still wouldn't like water, even if they were negated
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This is only theory of course, but I'm not sure about that.

Grok Training and Self-Replicating I wouldn't really call abilities, but more of a disability.

As has been said, a common negating power doesn't exists at this time, but my guess is that if it does in the future it will not negate 'negative' abilities.
I agree -- the poor Obsidians still wouldn't like water, even if they were negated
Negation currently removes ALL powers from the card (even Super Strength). Why would a future negation for commons be different? Heroscape doesn't make a distinction between abilities and disabilities. If it's on the card, it's a power. There can also be powers that are both positive and negative, so then what would you do?

(Also, the Obsidians are bad enough without having to keep their weakness!)


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Grok Training and Self-Replicating I wouldn't really call abilities, but more of a disability. As has been said, a common negating power doesn't exists at this time, but my guess is that if it does in the future it will not negate 'negative' abilities.
The other part of the equation is just as important of course: there's no unique with a disability (although I am hoping the pirate leader in wave 10 will have a hook and a wooden leg)

However, I am siding with NecroBlade on this: if you negate the powers on a card, there is no difference between positive and negative abilities.

Now what happens again when Morsbane negates not yet summoned Rechets of Bogdan?

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...Now what happens again when Morsbane negates not yet summoned Rechets of Bogdan?
Not possible. Units to be Negated have to be within 6 spaces; unsummond Rechets or undropped AE aren't within 6 spaces.

With the Glyph of Nilrend, that's a different story, and they cannot be summond or dropped.
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