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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
I'm looking forward to seeing the endgame for this design.
One question I have though, is why not make the Matrix roll 3 dice naturally, instead of 4? |
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
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Other directions that were contemplated was a terrain manipulation power but the execution of this turned out to be the downfall. Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
Then exact number isn't finalized yet and will need to be tested but we started with 3 back when it was counting blanks and it was too swingy so it was pushed to 4 with a possible 5 and counting shields. Firestorm Matrix will definatly be used in the future for the other versions of Firestorm (which are stronger and felt like a base of 5 with a possible 6).
Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
Ok, was just curious. I saw 3 options, and thought 3 just seemed right, but I'm sure it'll all come to balancing for sure. Cool beans.
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
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And there are enough instances in the comics of the two entities of the firestorm matrix not getting along to warrant a power to reflect that (although 1-6 is pretty high). I also think that some sort of power is needed to depict the dual personality, so what is there is fine. I was thinking it would be interesting if you would not be able to use one of the two classes/Identities if you roll low enough, depicting them not working together. Firestorm Matrix is very cool as it is, although I think it is hard to get the full theme out of a guy who can conjure bubble gum from the air to catch people falling from the air. One concern, you have his two Classes as Crimefighter, and Scientist, meaning he fits well into two, already very powerful factions. Not a huge concern by itself, but those two factions happen to be the Fantastic Four (+some other stuff) and Luke Cage's Avengers, both Marvel teams. One of the two would be fine, but two makes him feel like he's never going to be worth drafting in a thematic army. Just my opinion |
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
I really love this design, and the character totally deserves to be made.
A couple thoughts: 1) The Glyph option absolutely needs a range on it; as-is it's broken against certain figures. Also, it should use the "destroy" wording that Superboy (Kal-El) and Arnim Zola use. 2) I worry that Firestorm Matrix will just be kind of bland right now against most armies (if there aren't any glyphs, androids, or DOs, it's just a healing power). I know he can't normally use his powers on organic matter, but couldn't he find other ways of using it to attack? I mean, couldn't he transform the ground below them to fire or change the air above them into something that would fall on them? I think it would really help make him more useful if he had a fourth option that allowed him to wound other figures. C3G: Taking Superheroes to a Whole New Level! C3V: The Legacy of Classic 'Scape! Viegon & Family's Classic Customs, Maps, and Battlefield Videos. Enjoy App Games? Try A Day in the Life of Atlas! |
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
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Also agree on the range restriction, and he'd still be a sucker punch against Batman, Mandarin and Red Skull with those rules. |
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
I played Ubu today with his Lazarus Pit glyph and was wondering if the glyph-destroying should be on all glyphs or just equipment glyphs.
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
As worded it destroys all glyphs but they must be on a figure's card.
Expanding it to glyphs on the board is logical. You could exclude Infinity Gems if they should be invulnerable. Personally I like adding his ease of glyph destruction into the meta-game. I think it gives a little more freedom in creating future glyphs when you know such a solid counter exists. This could drive his cost beyond an acceptable level though. We may need to temper it a bit. Perhaps two shields to destroy a glyph. My concern is with the Crime Fighter and Scientist synergy as Smithy expressed. Viegon's point has merit. I would not like to see him pigeon-holed as a glyph counter. It seems like his power over Androids should be greater. DOs is a bit tricky as some are organic, but I suppose with a tree he just turns the air around it to fire(?) A cloud can change its semblance, yet retain its will With the intimacy of destruction, One knows what it is to be alive The empty sky holds no reflection, for sorrow - Eslo Rudkey |
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
So no fire based powers then. I agree with others concerned about the crime fighter & scientist synergy, are there some DC characters he should team up with based on his comic book history?
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Re: Book of Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond) (Desgin Phase)
Maybe Champion? That would give him synergy with at least one DC character, and I believe there were some ideas thrown around about a justice league figure who had synergy with champions (that would at least put him in the same category as supes and wonder woman
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Would I want it to be everything I love...sure...but that's just not realistic so I'm going to focus on finding things that will make me unhappy and work on fixing those. |
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