The Book of Robin (Jason Todd)

[IAmBatman]

They're definitely biting right now!

[johnny139]

Interesting... Todd wasn't too useful here, either. In the second match he dealt a wound to Brainiac, which is worth almost 70 points by itself, but in the first he was pretty much just a warm body for Mr. Zsasz. I'm not sure why he seems so much less useful than the other Robins... he's really about the same, only he forces you to take turns with him, which should be giving him MORE uses.

Originally Posted by darkraptor5413

[johnny139]

And a test in from marrowick. He says points should come down but he dealt at least 70 points in both games, so I'm thinking he's solid here.

I'd like to see how he does in Titan/Sidekick armies, though, so I'm going to ask for one more test.

Originally Posted by marrowick

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT ROBIN (Jason Todd

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
PASS

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
PASS

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
PASS

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
PASS

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
PASS

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
PASS I really like Jason todd and his back period as Red Hood I saw Under the Red Hood that was when I first saw him and I really liked him and just knowing that I can play as Jason is really fun for me.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
PASS

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
PASS

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
PASS

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
PASS as stated below a combo of a 1-5 roll and Reckless Engagement offers a few strategies.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? YES
- What should be the unit's point value? 60
- Give a brief overview. He didn't do much but he was fighting a tough opponent so I couldn't really judge though I sensed potential in him. Even though he didn't do much of anything I liked the design and thought that with the right circumstances he could do a lot.
Map: Sewer Labyrinth
Units: Robin (Jason Todd) (70), Batman (Bruce Wayne) (II) (320), Batman (Terry McGinnis) (470), Daredevil (650) Vs. Winter Soldier (240), Talia Al Ghul (350), Boomerang (480), Azreal ( 650)

Spoiler Alert!

Before R1 Batman (II) chooses Bat Grapple, Med Kit, and Bat Shuriken for his three equipment glyphs. Winter Soldier chooses Daredevil as his target.

R1
In turn 1 Batman (II) advances and allows Robin to take a turn. Robin advances. Boomerang advances. In turn 2 Robin takes a turn using Rebel Vigilante Sidekick. Robin advances and attacks Boomerang dealing 2 wounds. Batman (II) advances and attacks Boomerang three times with the Utility Glyph of Bat Shuriken failing to wound him. Boomerang attacks Batman (II) with his Screamerang Special Attack failing to wound him. In turn 3 Batman moves adjacent to Boomerang, attacks him dealing a wound bringing him down to one life, and allows Robin to take a turn. Robin advances and destroys Boomerang. Order marker 3 was on Boomerang.

R2
In turn 1 Azrael moves adjacent to Batman (II) and attacks him failing to wound him. Batman attacks Azrael failing to wound him and allows Robin to take a turn. Robin attacks Azrael failing to wound him. In turn 2 Azrael destroys Batman (II). Order marker 2 was on Batman (II). In turn 3 Azrael moves adjacent to Robin and attacks him dealing 2 wounds. Order marker 3 was on Batman (II).

R3
In turn 1 Batman (Terry) advances and allows Robin to take a turn. Robin attacks Azrael failing to wound him. Azrael destroys Robin. In turn 2 Batman (Terry) moves adjacent to Azrael, reveals the X order marker on his card to add one to his attack, and attacks Azrael failing to wound him. Winter Soldier advances. In turn 3 Batman (Terry) moves adjacent to Azrael and Winter Soldier and attacks Winter Soldier form height failing to wound him. Winter Soldier attacks Batman (Terry) failing to wound him.

Before R4 Azrael removes the red System marker from his card.

R4
In turn 1 Azrael attacks Batman (Terry) dealing 3 wounds bringing him down to one life. Batman (Terry) removes the X order marker from his card to add one to his attack and attacks Winter Soldier from height dealing 2 wounds. In turn 2 Azrael destroys Batman (Terry). Daredevil advances. In turn 3 Winter Soldier advances and attacks Daredevil failing to wound him. Daredevil moves adjacent to Winter Soldier and attacks him dealing 2 wounds bringing him down to one life.

R5
In turn 1 Winter Soldier attacks Daredevil but Daredevil successfully rolls for his Radar Sense 12 moving three spaces. Daredevil moves adjacent to Winter Soldier and destroys him. In turn 2 Order marker 2 was on Winter Soldier. Daredevil moves adjacent to Azrael and attacks him failing to wound him. In turn 3 Order marker 3 was on Winter Soldier. Daredevil attacks Azrael dealing 3 wounds bringing him down to one life.

Before R6 Azrael places the red System marker on his card

R6
In turn 1 Daredevil destroys Azrael. Order marker 1 was on Azrael. In turn 2 Daredevil moves adjacent to Talia Al ghul and attacks Talia Al Ghul dealing 2 wounds to her. Talia Al Ghul moves onto equal height with Daredevil. In turn 3 Dardevil attacks Talia Al Ghul dealing a wound to her bringing her down to one life. Talia Al Ghul does nothing.

R7
In turn 1 Talia Al Ghul does nothing. Daredevil attacks Talia Al Ghul failing to wound her. In turn 2 Talia Al Ghul does nothing. Daredevil destroys Talia Al Ghul.

Who won and how many wounds did they have? Daredevil 4/4

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? YES
- What should be the unit's point value? 60
- Give a brief overview. Good Unit Solid unit. Much like the other Robins he is somewhat easy to destroy yet tough enough to last a little while against the right opponents. His Rebel Vigilante Sidekick special power can work pretty well along side his Reckless engagement allowing for a few interesting strategies.
Map: Dark Dimension.
Units: Alfred Pennyworth (60), Batman (Bruce Wayne) (I) (260), Robin (Jason Todd) (330), Echo (460), Huntress (640), Punisher (820) vs. Ra’s Al Ghul (200), Elite League Assassins (350), Hand Ninja x5 (775).

Spoiler Alert!

R1
In turn 1 Punisher advances and allows Robin to take a turn. Robin advances using Bat-Grapple 3. he Hand Ninja’s allow Ra’s Al Ghul to take a turn. Ra’s Al Ghul places the Glyph of Lazarus Pit two spaces away and advances. The Hand Ninjas advance. In turn 2 Punisher advances and allows Robin to take a turn. Robin advances. The Hand Ninjas allow the Elite Assassin League to take a turn. The Elite Assassin League advance. The Hand Ninjas advance. In turn 3 Punisher advances, destroys a Hand Ninja, and allows Robin to take a turn. Robin Bat-Grapples adjacent to Punisher and destroys a Hand Ninja. The Hand Ninjas allow the Elite Assassin League to take a turn. The Elite Assassins League advance.

R2
In turn 1 Ra’s Al Ghul successfully rolls for The Demon’s Head using a Hand Ninja to deal 2 wounds to Punisher. Punisher advances, uses Armor Piercing Rocket on Ra’s Al Ghul dealing 3 wounds, and allows Robin to take a turn. Robin moves adjacent to Punisher and destroys an Elite League Assassin. In turn 2 The Hand Ninjas allow the Elite League Assassins to take a turn. The Elite League Assassins move adjacent to Punisher and Robin and attack them failing to wound Punisher but dealing 2 wounds to Robin. The Hand Ninjas advance and two of them attack Robin dealing a wound to him bringing him down to one life. Punisher attacks the Elite League Assassins three times failing to wound them and allows Robin to take a turn. Robin attacks an Elite League Assassin failing to destroy it. In turn 3 The Hand Ninjas allow the Elite League Assassins to take a turn. The Elite League Assassins move adjacent to Punisher and Robin and attack Punisher failing to wound him. The Hand Ninjas advance and destroy Robin. Batman advances.

R3
In turn 1 The Hand Ninjas allow Ra’s Al Ghul to take a turn. Ra’s Al Ghul moves onto the glyph of Lazarus Pit. The Hand Ninjas move adjacent to Punisher and attack him dealing 2 wounds bringing him down to one life. Punisher attacks a Hand Ninja with his Auto Shotgun Special Attack destroying the Elite League Assassins and a Hand Ninja. In turn 2 The Hand Ninjas allow Ra’s Al Ghul to take a turn. Ra’s Al Ghul advances. The Hand Ninjas move adjacent to Punisher and destroy him. Batman advances. In turn 3 The Hand Ninjas allow Ra’s Al Ghul to take a turn. Ra’s Al Ghul advances. The Hand Ninjas advance. Batman advances and attacks twice using Batarang Special Attack destroying a Hand Ninja. In turn 3 The Hand Ninjas allow Ra’s Al Ghul to take a turn. Ra’s Al Ghul moves adjacent to Batman and attacks him failing to wound him. The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Batman failing to wound him. Batman attacks Ra’s Al Ghul with his normal attack dealing 2 wounds.

R4
In turn 1 Batman attacks Ra’s Al Ghul with his normal attack failing to wound him. Ra’s Al Ghul attacks Batman dealing a wound and fails his roll for The Demon’s Head. In turn 2 Batman attacks Ra’s Al Ghul with his normal attack dealing 2 wounds. The Hand Ninjas allow Ra’s Al Ghul to take a turn. Ra’s Al Ghul attacks Batman dealing a wound. The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Batman but he successfully rolls for Evasive Strike 15 on one of them destroying a Hand Ninja and blocks the other two. In turn 3 Batman attacks Ra’s Al Ghul with his normal attack dealing a wound bringing him down to one life. The Hand Ninjas allow Ra’s Al Ghul to take a turn. Ra’s Al Ghul attacks Batman but Batman successfully for Evasive Strike 15 destroying Ra’s Al Ghul. The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Batman dealing a wound bringing him down to one life but he rolled successfully for Evasive Strike 15 on one of them destroying a Hand Ninja.

R5
In turn 1 The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Batman destroying him but he successfully rolls for Evasive Strike on one of them destroying a Hand Ninja. Alfred advances. In turn 2 The Hand Ninjas advance. Order Marker 2 was on Batman. In turn 3 The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Alfred dealing a wound. Order marker 3 was on Batman.

R6
In turn 1 Echo advances, uses Mimic on Huntress, and destroys a Hand Ninja. The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Alfred failing to wound him. In turn 2 Huntress advances and attacks the hand Ninjas twice with her Crossbow Special Attack failing to destroy them. The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Alfred and Echo destroying Alfred but failing to wound Echo. In turn 3 Huntress attacks the Hand Ninjas twice with her Crossbow Special Attack destroying one. The Hand Ninjas advance and destroy Huntress but she Ruthless Counter Strikes one of them destroying a Hand Ninja.

R7
In turn 1 Echo advances and attacks a Hand Ninja failing to destroy it. The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Echo failing to wound her and she Counter Strikes destroying a Hand Ninja. In turn 2 Echo advances. The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Echo failing to wound her. In turn 3 Echo advances and destroys a Hand Ninja. The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Echo dealing a wound to her.

R8
In turn 1 Echo moves adjacent to a Hand Ninja and attacks it failing to destroy it. The Hand Ninjas advance and attack Echo failing to wound her. In turn 2 Echo moves adjacent to both Hand Ninjas and destroys a Hand Ninja. The Hand Ninja attacks Echo dealing a wound to her. In turn 3 Echo attacks a Hand Ninja failing to destroy it. The Hand Ninja attacks Echo failing to wound her.

R9
In turn 1 Echo destroys the last Hand Ninja.

Who won and how many wounds did they have? Echo 2/4

[IAmBatman]

Two really close test too. 70's holding up so far for me.

[Hahma]

His army won all 4 of those matches. No reason to drop points for sure.

[johnny139]

Results in from fret, who seems to think he's a bit undercosted!

His biggest point to me is the synergy with other Titans - in that build the downside of Rebel Sidekick is gone and he's just a solid unit all around. The results weren't really anything to gawk at here for him alone, but the army really crushed the opposition.

So far his army has won every match (except for mine against the Kree) and, while he hasn't always been a major force there, I don't think it would hurt to drop his stats a bit. I'm feeling Defense down to 3 - any other opinions?

Originally Posted by fret_gurglo

C3G STANDARD PLAYTEST FEEDBACK FORM

NAME OF THE TEST UNIT Robin (Jason Todd)

- THEME TEST/ Check to see if there are any powers or stats on the test unit card that does not accurately reflect the theme or likeness of what the character would and could do. Also consider destructible objects, and whether or not this characters powers should affect them.
Pass

- MIRROR TEST/ Check to see if the unit were played against itself, if there would be any loops that would upset the balance of the Game.
Pass

- BONDING TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing Bonding abilities to make sure there are no continual Bonding possibilities that do not stop appropriately or do not stop at all. This is to prevent loops in Bonding.
Pass

- SYNERGIES TEST/ Compare the unit card with all possible currently existing synergies to make sure there are no factors that could break the game by making any unit to powerful or too weak.
Pass

- POWER CHECK/ Consider the test unit and all existing units and all glyphs to compare to and check for any powers that could be over amplified and break the game. Each power must define when it takes place, who or what it affects, and What are the stipulations on the power if there are any.
Pass

- FUN TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play.
Pass.

- FUN COMPETITIVE TEST/ Consider whether or not the design was fun to play against.
Pass.

- DRAFTING TEST/ Consider whether or not this design is worth drafting.
Pass

- USAGE TEST/ Consider whether or not all of the powers on this card were used or at least usable.
Pass.

- STRATEGY TEST/ Consider whether or not the design offers any real strategy or interesting tactics to the overall game.
Pass.

I firmly believe that at 70 points he is undervalued. Although he should be valued at less than Tim Drake(120), I think he should about equal to the 100 points of Dick Grayson. Comparing him to Dick Grayson, Jason Todd has 1 more life and Defense. Although his sidekick power does not give him a +1 attack it does allow for limitless range, so I say tie. Daring Decoy vs Reckless Engagement: both have their strategic uses and obvious penalties, I’d say slight advantage to Dick. Acrobatic Maneuver against Bat-Grapple: Grapple gives more control and level changes of 30 instead of 6, but it does not give the instant dodge for a shield. This one is a little tougher to compare so it might depend directly on the map and if your opponent as many “auto-wounders” that would bypass the 1 shield defense. In the end I still say that Jason Todd should either have his defense lowered or his points increased.

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 80-100
Give a brief overview. The Criminals attempted to set up on extreme high ground using Chronos to teleport Thugs and Bane. This would have given them 3-4 attacks of 5 dice with a range of 5. Unfortunately the Sidekicks got some very lucky rolls early in and were able to destroy this advantage before it became a problem. The combo of Robin (Jason), Kid Flash, Speedy and Aqualad allowed for moving 3 figures and attacking with 3 figures most rounds. This bonding alone should increase his value in my opinion.
Map: Hydra Base Gehenna
Units: SIDEKICKS (890) Alfred Pennyworth (60), Aqualad (60), Kid Flash (110), Raven (190), Robin (Dick) (100), Robin (Jason) (70), Speedy (90), Starfire (210) VS. CRIMINALS (890) Bane (190), Catwoman (145), Chronos, (75), Clayface (240), Street Thugs x2 (150), Ventriloquist (90)

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1
Sidekicks win Initiative
Turn 1
Starfire advanced to high ground
Chronos flies to high ground, places a Temporal Displacement glyph on high ground and then lands on it. Bane is suddenly on the high ground 4 spaces from Chronos.
Turn 2
Raven flies adjacent to Starfire
Chronos moves and places another Temporal Displacement glyph and brings up a Street Thug
Turn 3
Robin (Jason) advances with Kid Flash Slipstreaming behind him. Aqualad uses Titan of Atlantis to bond with Robin and takes a turn ending on a water tile and Leaps over a small land mass to end on a another water tile
Chronos moves back to a Temporal Displacement glyph and brings up another Street Thug and then uses Time Bandit to end his turn on his card
Round 2
Criminals win Initiative
Turn 1
Chronos appears on a Temporal Displacement glyph (removing it from the board) and ends his turn on the other glyph bringing another Street Thug up
Speedy moves forward
Turn 2
Bane moves into to position
Raven moves and then attacks a Street Thug. Street Thug does get the benefit of Bane’s Tactician power but still fails the roll and is destroyed
Turn 3
Street Thugs turn. They bond with Ventriloquist who advances. 2 Street Thugs from the back advance and then 4 of them attack. 2 have bonuses from extreme high ground and Tactician. Those 2 attack Speedy and the far back 2 attack Raven from low ground. All for a total of 1 wound on Raven
Robin (Jason) advances, bringing Kid Flash with him. Speedy then takes a shot at a Street thug from extreme low ground and destroys one. Robin then attacks the other and he is also destroyed. Next Aqualad advances

Round 3
Sidekicks win Initiative
Turn 1
Robin (Jason) Bat-grapples up to the top level adjacent to Bane and Kid Flash follows. Speedy takes a shot at Bane and inflicts a wound. Robin then attacks Bane , but it is blocked. Aqualad moves and attacks a Street Thug and destroys him
Chronos moves adjacent to Bane and attacks Robin but does no damage. He then uses Time Bandit to leave the battlefield
Turn 2
Raven removes a Wound Marker from her card and places it on Bane’s card
Bane reveals an OM and Chronos comes back on the remaining glyph. Bane rolls an 8 for his Venom Injection and attacks Robin rolling all 5 skulls. Robin only rolls 1 shield and is destroyed.
Turn 3
Robin (Jason) loses a turn
Street Thugs bond with Ventriloquist who uses Tommy Gun on Aqualad for 1 wound. Then the Street Thugs advance and all 4 fire on Aqualad for an additional wound

Round 4
Sidekicks win Initiative
Turn 1
Robin (Dick) moves forward. Speedy takes a shot at Bane and does 1 wound.
Street Thugs bond with Ventriloquist who uses Tommy Gun on Aqualad and destroys him. The Street Thugs advance. 1 attacks Speedy and the remaining 3 attack Raven. No damage done.
Turn 2
Kid Flash moves past Bane and through Chronos. Speedy attacks a Street Thug and destroys him. Kid Flash then attacks Chronos for 1 wound
Bane jumps down and rolls a 14 for Venom and attacks Speedy but fails to deal any damage
Turn 3
Robin (Dick) moves 1 space for high ground and attacks Bane for 2 wound
Clayface advances

Round 5
Sidekicks win Initiative
Turn 1
Starfire attacks Bane from extreme height but fails to do any damage
Bane attempts to attack Speedy but the Venom rolls a 2 and Bane is destroyed
Turn 2
Starfire moves and attacks Ventriloquist for 1 wound
Street Thugs bond with Ventriloquist who advances and uses Tommy Gun on Robin for 2 wounds. 1 Street Thug is adjacent to Ventriloquist and uses the 1 extra space movement to end adjacent to Speedy. The other 2 advance to take shots on Speedy, but all miss
Turn 3
Starfire moves to within 4 spaces of Robin (Dick) and uses Protective Fury to attack 3 times this turn. It takes all three attacks but she destroys Ventriloquist
Clayface advances

Round 6
Sidekicks win Initiative
Turn 1
Starfire uses the wounds on Robin to attack 3 times again. 2 more Street Thugs are destroyed (1 remaining)
Chronos leaves engagement with Kid Flash (takes a wound) and moves down to leave a glyph behind. He then turns and walks back onto the glyph pulling Kid Flash with him and placing him adjacent to Clayface, who then smothers him. Chronos leaves the battlefield and fulls heals
Turn 2
Starfire attacks Clayface 3 times for a total of 1 wound
Clayface reduces Kid Flashs defense by 1 and attacks for 2 wound
Turn 3
Starfire moves to within 4 spaces of Kid Flash and attacks Clayface 3 times for another 4 wounds
Clayface attacks and destroys Kid Flash and becomes a Charlatan

Round 7
Sidekicks win Initiative
Turn 1
Raven moves adjacent to Robin and then attacks and destroys the last Thug
Chronos reappears and moves to leave a glyph, then land on that glyph to pull Starfire down adjacent to Clayface. He then attacks Starfire but does no damage
Turn 2
Raven absorbs 2 wounds from Robin and then uses Soul Self to target Clayface and place a wound on his card and destroys him
Catwoman advances and uses Whip Lash on Starfire but does no damage
Turn 3
Robin advances
Catwoman tries Whip Lash again, but fails to roll a single skull

Round 8
Sidekicks win Initiative
Turn 1
Raven moves to high ground and uses Soul Self to transfer a wound to Catwoman
Catwoman fails Whip Lash
Turn 2
Speedy moves forward and attacks Chronos for no damage
Catwoman moves to attack Speedy and hits him twice with Whip Lash and destroys him
Turn 3
Robin moves adjacent to Catwoman and attacks but no damage
Catwoman attacks Robin but no damage

Round 9
Sidekicks win Initiative
Turn 1
Starfire attacks Chronos for 1 wound
Catwoman hits Robin for 1 wounds
Turn 2
Starfire gets 3 attacks and destroys Chronos and does 2 wounds to Catwoman
Catwoman does no damage
Turn 3
Starfire moves to a space adjacent to Catwoman and attacks 3 times and destroys her
Catwoman loses a turn



Who won and how many wounds did they have? Sidekicks won. Robin (Dick) had 2 wounds. Raven, Starfire and Alfred ended with no wounds

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Army Test
- Does it pass, Yes or No? Yes
- What should be the unit's point value? 80-100
Give a brief overview. This battle was a little closer. The Mutants had a huge advantage against the Humans when they destroyed Punisher so quickly. I still see Robin as worth more than 70 points though
Map: Hydra Base Gehenna
Units: HUMANS (605) 5th Precinct Beat Cops (65), Batman (200), Commissioner Gordon (90), Punisher (180), Robin (70) VS. MUTANTS (600) Angel (90), Cyclops (190), Mastermind (90), Multiple Man x5 (150), Shadowcat (80)

Spoiler Alert!

Round 1
Commissioner Gordon choses Punisher for Bat Signal
Mutants win Initiative
Turn 1
Cyclops has Angel fly him to high ground and then allows Mastermind to take a turn going for the ladder
Punisher advances. Robin rolls an 8 for Rebel Sidekick and takes a turn
Turn 2
Cyclops has Angel fly towards Mastermind and then Mastermind climbs up the ladder. Cyclops moves an OM to Angel
Batman grapples to high ground. Robin rolls an 18 and also grapples up
Turn 3
Angel flies with Mastermind over to the edge of the upper platform
Gordon advances and Call for Backup moving the Beat Cops

Round 2
Humans win Initiative
Punisher sees the Bat Signal and appears on the upper platform
Turn 1
Punisher attacks Cyclops 3 times for a total of 1 wound. Robin rolls a 19 and moves forward. He does not have the range to hit Cyclops and Mastermind and Angel are protected by Psychic Camouflage
Cyclops moves adjacent to Mastermind and then blasts Punisher but it is blocked
Turn 2
Batmans turn, but Robin rolls a 4 and must go first. Robin grapples down to get to the Mastermind group and then Batman moves taking the space Robin previously occupied.
Cyclops moves a Multiple Man and then blasts Punisher for 4 wounds
Turn 3
Batman grapples down as while and Robin (rolled an moves closer. Neither can take a shot because of Mastermind
Cyclops moves a Multiple Man and finishes off Punisher

Round 3
Humans win Initiative
Turn 1
Batman grapples to the far side of the platform and strikes at 3 of the Multiple Men. He destroys 1, the second Dupes and recreates it and the third blocks. Robin rolled a 9 and grapples adjacent to Cyclops and attacks using his Reckless Engagement and inflicts 1 wound
Cyclops moves an OM to Mastermind and has a Multiple Man advance, then he attacks Robin for 1 wound
Turn 2
Batmans tries again with the Batarang to Multiple Men and again after all said and done, no damage. Robin attacks Cyclops again for 1 more wound
Mastermind and Cyclops attack Robin for 2 wounds
Turn 3
One more time for Batman, this time he destroys 2 Multiple Men. Robin fails to destroy Cyclops
Mastermind and Cyclops attack Robin again and Cyclops destroys him

Round 4
Humans win Initiative
Turn 1
Batman runs up to Cyclops and attacks but Cyclops defends all skulls
Cyclops has Angel move 4 spaces and then Cyclops attacks Batman, but Evasive Strike rolls a 19 and Cyclops is destroyed
Turn 2
Batman moves and uses Batarangs on 2 of the Multiple Men and Angel. 1 Multiple Man is destroyed
Mastermind attacks Batman, no damage. Angel attacks Batman but Evasive Strike returns it back to Angel for 1 wound
Turn 3
Batman turns and hits Angel for 3 wounds destroying him
Mastermind attacks Batman for 2 wounds and then has Shadowcat advance

Round 5
Humans win Initiative
Turn 1
Batman tries Batarangs on the Multiple Men but no damage and no Dupes
Mastermind hits Batman for 1 more wound and Shadowcat climbs the ladder
Turn 2
Batman moves and attacks Mastermind for 1 wound
Mastermind attacks Batman and would have dealt the last wound if not for Evasive Strike which instead places a wound on Mastermind. Shadowcat moves adjacent to Batman and misses
Turn 3
Commissioner Gordon advances and Calls for Backup
Mastermind attacks Batman but Evasive Strike rolls a 15 and gives Mastermind another wound. Shadowcat attacks Batman but Evasive Strike hits her back

Round 6
Humans win Initiative
Turn 1
Batman attacks and destroys Mastermind
Mastermind loses a turn
Turn 2
Batman turns and hits Shadowcat for 1 wound
2 Multiple Men advance
Turn 3
Commissioner Gordon advances and fires at a Multiple Man but rolls all shields. 3 Beat Cops follow Gordon
2 Multiple Men advance and attack a Beat Cop but do no damage

Round 7
Mutants win Initiative
Turn 1
Shadowcat hits and destroys Batman
Beat Cops attack Multiple Men and instead of destroying any another appears
Turn 2
3 Multiple Men attack a Beat Cop and just can’t do any damage
Beat Cops hit and destroy all Multiple Men
Turn 3
Multiple Man loses a turn
Batman loses a turn

Round 8
Humans win Initiative
Turn 1
Gordon advances and Calls for Backup
Shadowcat climbs down the ladder
Turn 2
Gordon moves adjacent to Shadowcat and hits for 1 wound
Shadowcat attacks Gordon for 1 wound
Turn 3
Gordon attacks and misses
Shadowcat misses

Round 9
Humans win Initiative
Turn 1
Gordon misses
Shadowcat attacks Beat Cop and destroys him
Turn 2
Gordon hits and destroys her
Shadowcat loses a turn


Who won and how many wounds did they have? Humans win. Commissioner Gordon had 1 wound and 2 Beat Cops remain in play.

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[quozl]

Don't drop his Defense. Damian's is 4. I can see Jason at 90.

[johnny139]

But I feel like 90 might be overcosting him... and I'd really like to avoid putting him at 80 because that's even with Damian and two "Vigilante Sidekick with good offense but a drawback" at the same price point is juts redundancy.

We could always tweak his roll some, but that'd require more testing (and not really be relevant outside of "multiple Vigilantes + multiple Sidekick" builds).

[quozl]

We could put his Life back to 3 like you tested him. 70 looks good then.

[IAmBatman]

I wouldn't mind 80. It's not like you can't double up on Sidekicks. That's where I'd put him if we keep him as is, at least.

If we drop the defense or life one to try him cheaper, I'd want to see us get one more test for him with the changes.

We could also consider 75. That'd certainly be different, but might be too cheap.

[Hahma]

80 might not be too bad.

[johnny139]

I'd really like to avoid 80. I'll poll strong feelings here - gun to your head, which one?

A) Drop Life
B) Drop Defense
C) Stay as-is