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Competitive Armies Discussion Discuss, critique, and build ideas for tournament-caliber armies. |
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"Competitive armies" vs. "Fun armies"
Just wondering what peoples ideas are going into tournaments. Do you like to play armies that you are not sure will do so well but are ones that you know you will have fun with, or would you rather bite the bullet and play an army you may not enjoy much for the sake of winning? Am playing in my first tournament at the end of march and am leaning towards the "fun" side.
Eastern PA scapers first ever tournament http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=13169[/img] "A good teacher is like a candle: it consumes itself to light the way for others." -Anonymous |
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Well the point of a game is to have fun. Every army that I have played with either competitively or just for "fun" have been fun. The question is whether they are really fun, or just fun. Whether an army is competitive or an army nobody would usually play and not expected to do well. If I have the crown on from the last tournament I will usually play an army most people don't play. But if I'm going into a new tournament or haven't won it in a while I will try to make a competitive army. Either way I will have a "fun" army in my opinion and have fun playing it.
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I think it's possible to have fun and play a very good army. I've played in lots of tournaments, and I like to do well. However, I think there are enough good units out there to win a tournament with entirely different armies. When I go from tournament to tournament, I almost always pick a completely different army. I've recently played Krav, Nilfheim, Zombies, Stingers, 4th Mass, Raelin, and Rats, so this time I'm looking at Romans, Trons, or Arrow Gruts. There are lots of other good units I could use, but these ones are both interesting to me right now, and I think they have good potential given the maps and glyph selections. There are plenty of good units out there that are fully capable of winning or doing well in a tournament, and I just keep using new units to keep it fun for me.
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I like playing armies that have good synergies but not necessarily tournament armies. Its all about variety. Who wouldn't be bored out of their skull if they had to play Raelin Krav every game.
...and then he used his fight money to buy two of every animal, and then he herded them all onto a boat and then he beat the crap out every single one. |
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The problem I have balancing these things, is that I can't stop from getting synergistic units. If I have Mittens, that means that I HAVE to have some frenzy units, and then of course big vipers.. and then I'm out of points! Or if I have Krug, then I might as well have some orc archers, and you can't have just one squad of those, because that's dumb, and once you have three squads of orcs, you need some riders... As soon as I have a bunch of Marro, I just have to pick SBN since I have so many d20's to care about... I need help!
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I try to bring as competitive an army as I expect to face, and to make it something fun for me to play no matter what. As Grungebob put it, "my favorite games are the close ones." This means that if I'm going to a tournament where people can bring anything, I'm going to bring top tier units, but ones that I like. If I'm playing around with my friends, I'll try to play something less reliable, like Snipers and Vipers if they're going with their Cowboys and Samurai army. I won't play Deathreavers in casual games unless I'm specifically testing an army for a tournament. I don't ever really play Q9, mostly because I don't like playing him.
I feel you on that synergy thing Acinonyx. It's really hard for me to pick an army that doesn't have synergy, because it's what I do automatically now. However, when I first taught my girlfriend to play, she wanted an army that was all female units. I gave her Braxas, Old Raelin, 2x WoA, and Kyntela Gwyn for 410 points. I used 2x Minions, Taelord, and Isamu for the same. I lost horribly, despite picking a somewhat decent, synergyistic army, and for obvious reasons. Another favorite of mine when playing against new players is to give them Krav and Syvarris and other good ranged figures, and to play Romans and Vipers and Mittens and play them imperceptibly less well than I usually might- show them the power of range. |
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So, what you are saying is....you were afraid to let your GF have the Nakitas.
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Mittens + Venoc Vipers + Aubrien Archers and / or EOV Greeks + Parmenio + Marcus + Valguard Valguard + Tarn Viking Warriors Blade/Heavy Gruts + Grimnak + Tornak + Ornak Acolarh + Elves Hatamato Taro + Samurai and / or Ashigaru Empress Kiova + Einar Imperium and / or Marcus Master Woo + Shaolin Monks Macdirk Warriors + Human Champs (though they recently won a tourney) Nakita Agents + Gorillinators and / or Laglor Runa + Minions of Utgar I could go on... all of those combinations are very syngerystic but I probably wouldn't bring any of them to an ultra-competitive tournament. These are the kind of armies I love to play in casual games. However, if you bring something like these against Q9 + Raelin or 4th Mass + 4th Mass + 4th Mass, you might be in trouble. Like battle reports? Click Tourney Reports (New 10/21/2012 - Cutters / Brutes!) KC's Maps Click KC's Customs Scaper of the Week #57 |
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Eastern PA scapers first ever tournament http://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=13169[/img] "A good teacher is like a candle: it consumes itself to light the way for others." -Anonymous |
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a frenzy army can definitely be competitive. The last game I played was an army with the Venoc Warlord, Vipers, and Aubriens vs a Stinger and Hive army. It waas an absolute slaughter for the frenzy army. Extra turns are just gravy when you factor in the aubriens 7 range outranges most other ranged squads and the vipers 9 movement allows 1st strike against almost all melee
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